Israel invaded

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Scrimpton

12,390 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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andyA700 said:
It isn't a good look, supporting a despotic regime who steals Palestinian lands, builds illegal settlements, ignores UN treaties and keeps the Palestinian people in a virtual concentration camp.
More than 9,000 Palestinians have been injured by Israeli forces in the West Bank since the start of the 2022, according to the UN.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/26/why-israe...
Israel are the despots when Hamas is in the 15th year of a 4 year term. OK mate.

Countdown

39,995 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Earthdweller said:
ZedLeg said:
What compromise can the Palestinians make? Israel wants the land and doesn’t care how they take it.
Well I suppose not firing 5000 rockets at civilians, invading Israel, taking hostages and murdering innocent civilians might be a start

Don’t you think?
No it wouldn't. If you need evidence of that have a look at the West Bank and compare and contrast.

Countdown

39,995 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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gotoPzero said:
The best thing they could do is just say you know what, lets just live in peace.
You would think that but when you keep getting kicked off land that you've lived on / farmed for decades, and more and more restrictions are put on what you can do, eventually you want to strike back.

Countdown

39,995 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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eldar said:
fizz47 said:
Someone wearing a Palestinian flag is no different than someone wearing a Ukrainian flag. Both occupied lands ….
Really?
ironically the reasons given by Israel for occupying the West Bank are exactly the same as those given by Putin for invading Ukraine.

Fast and Spurious

1,341 posts

89 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Countdown said:
ironically the reasons given by Israel for occupying the West Bank are exactly the same as those given by Putin for invading Ukraine.

Vasco

16,479 posts

106 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Countdown said:
gotoPzero said:
The best thing they could do is just say you know what, lets just live in peace.
You would think that but when you keep getting kicked off land that you've lived on / farmed for decades, and more and more restrictions are put on what you can do, eventually you want to strike back.
......so you just get killed ?

OutInTheShed

7,730 posts

27 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Let's hope the yanks don't take out Milton Abbas by mistake.

Countdown

39,995 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Vasco said:
Countdown said:
gotoPzero said:
The best thing they could do is just say you know what, lets just live in peace.
You would think that but when you keep getting kicked off land that you've lived on / farmed for decades, and more and more restrictions are put on what you can do, eventually you want to strike back.
......so you just get killed ?
I'm pretty sure they know that but, given the conditions they live under, they probably don't care.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Videos on Reddit are disturbing. Cameraman (hamas) showing building strewn with dead Israelis, appear to be civilian, or civvie dress, bodies all over the floor. Someone lying there moves, shots ring out…..

Israeli women, reported as military but again, civvie dress, dragged by hair out of back of jeep, bloodied and injured, shoeless, thrown into jeep, militants all over the place, very bleak for her.

Johnnybee

2,288 posts

222 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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One thing is for sure, Israel will never allow this to happen again. How they do this remains to be seen.

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

40 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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TTmonkey said:
Videos on Reddit are disturbing. Cameraman (hamas) showing building strewn with dead Israelis, appear to be civilian, or civvie dress, bodies all over the floor. Someone lying there moves, shots ring out…..

Israeli women, reported as military but again, civvie dress, dragged by hair out of back of jeep, bloodied and injured, shoeless, thrown into jeep, militants all over the place, very bleak for her.
She is, I believe, the one later seen in t e back of a pick up, stripped, dead, leg all fked up?

fk Hamas. No different to ISIS,Al Qaeda, etc.

Carl_Manchester

12,261 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Solocle said:
I'm not sure why you single out Layla Moran.
Because that’s not the first tweet she put out.



Vasco

16,479 posts

106 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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I know this isn't the point but are the Palestinians free to move to another country - if they wish ?

Pretty rough situation to end up in, regardless.

Klippie

3,179 posts

146 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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I'am not a follower of middle east politics has Israel ever launched an unprovoked attack on Palastine or has it always been the other way around.

grumbledoak

31,553 posts

234 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Klippie said:
I'am not a follower of middle east politics has Israel ever launched an unprovoked attack on Palastine or has it always been the other way around.
Israel killing Palestinians is pretty constant. More than 200 so far this year.

Gecko1978

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9,758 posts

158 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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ZedLeg said:
Puddenchucker said:
Israel will no doubt repspond with a huge military assult and it will be Palestinian civillians that will suffer the most.
(And yes, there will be Israeli civillian casualties also.)

You'd have thought that after all these years, both sides would have learnt that shooting each other isn't going to work but neither side is willing to make compromise so the cycle continues.
What compromise can the Palestinians make? Israel wants the land and doesn’t care how they take it.
Zed I like you and the debates but just for a moment take off your lefty specs and think about this. Say your Joe Blogs working in a shop in Gaza your government just fired 500 rockets into the country next door an invaded....said country has F18's Apache Gun ships, Abrahams Tanks, drones, statalites and let's be Frank nuclear devices. Your government are basically about to get you killed.

Israeli illegal settlements is one issues. Being turned to Ash via predator drone seems to me to be much worse.

This action by Hamas is jnsane literally 1000s could die because of this.

Captain Raymond Holt

12,230 posts

195 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Kes Arevo said:
Genocide?

Completely OT, but what’s the app or setting which shows you the speed in the top bar?

Elroy Blue

8,689 posts

193 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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The people pulling the strings of this attack are all in Iran.
They don't care about the Gaza, the West Bank, Palestinians or even Hamas.
They want Israel attacked so they retaliate, derailing peace talks between Saudi and Israel.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Gecko1978 said:
ZedLeg said:
Puddenchucker said:
Israel will no doubt repspond with a huge military assult and it will be Palestinian civillians that will suffer the most.
(And yes, there will be Israeli civillian casualties also.)

You'd have thought that after all these years, both sides would have learnt that shooting each other isn't going to work but neither side is willing to make compromise so the cycle continues.
What compromise can the Palestinians make? Israel wants the land and doesn’t care how they take it.
Zed I like you and the debates but just for a moment take off your lefty specs and think about this. Say your Joe Blogs working in a shop in Gaza your government just fired 500 rockets into the country next door an invaded....said country has F18's Apache Gun ships, Abrahams Tanks, drones, statalites and let's be Frank nuclear devices. Your government are basically about to get you killed.

Israeli illegal settlements is one issues. Being turned to Ash via predator drone seems to me to be much worse.

This action by Hamas is jnsane literally 1000s could die because of this.
If you were a shop keeper in Gaza where your home and livelihood could be demolished on a whim and your kids may have been shot for protesting, you might not be so scared of the rocket that may come.

Skeptisk

7,540 posts

110 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Vasco said:
I know this isn't the point but are the Palestinians free to move to another country - if they wish ?

Pretty rough situation to end up in, regardless.
How? The Gaza Strip is not a country so presumably they don’t have passports and I believe they can’t go to Israel (even if they wanted to) and I don’t think they can easily get out through Egypt either.