Policing of pro Palestinian marches

[Greendubber]

Vanden Saab said:

Greendubber said:

Ridgemont said:

A judge has ruled that our friend with the ‘Hamas is terrorist’ banner is able to continue his counter protests after the judge ruled that his bail conditions imposed by the police banning him from the City of Westminster during protests were disproportionate.

Thank God the Judge has an ounce of common sense as the police appear to have none.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/13/judge-...

I can see both sides of it personally, who'd want to be the Met keeping huge groups of pro-palestine protestors from getting to this bloke every weekend when he turns up with his sign. They have enough on their plates as it is, constant mutual aid each weekend, not enough staff to maintain daily business etc, it's costing millions.

Bloody hell, no wonder the Met is in such a mess if an (ex?) copper thinks there is a side that is fine with mob rule.
How about just arresting everybody who attacks him or shutting down the hate marches in the first place. You know actually doing your job.

I'm looking at it from a point of view that makes the difficult life of The Met a little easier for them. Remove one bloke or try and remove a few thousand.

Everyone has the right to protest, both sides of this debate but if there's a small spark that may ignite things (this bloke) then I'm saying I can see why they did what they did.

The police are simply outnumbered, even with a thousand or so officers taken from other forces most weekends. They're stuck in a very difficult position as usual, I'd love to know how you suggest shutting these marches down?

[williamp]

Greendubber said:

Ridgemont said:

A judge has ruled that our friend with the ‘Hamas is terrorist’ banner is able to continue his counter protests after the judge ruled that his bail conditions imposed by the police banning him from the City of Westminster during protests were disproportionate.

Thank God the Judge has an ounce of common sense as the police appear to have none.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/13/judge-...

I can see both sides of it personally, who'd want to be the Met keeping huge groups of pro-palestine protestors from getting to this bloke every weekend when he turns up with his sign. They have enough on their plates as it is, constant mutual aid each weekend, not enough staff to maintain daily business etc, it's costing millions.

Woah there. These are purely peaceful protests. To even suggest otherwise is right wing dogwhistle rhetoric

[FiF]

Greendubber said:

Vanden Saab said:

Greendubber said:

Ridgemont said:

A judge has ruled that our friend with the ‘Hamas is terrorist’ banner is able to continue his counter protests after the judge ruled that his bail conditions imposed by the police banning him from the City of Westminster during protests were disproportionate.

Thank God the Judge has an ounce of common sense as the police appear to have none.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/13/judge-...

I can see both sides of it personally, who'd want to be the Met keeping huge groups of pro-palestine protestors from getting to this bloke every weekend when he turns up with his sign. They have enough on their plates as it is, constant mutual aid each weekend, not enough staff to maintain daily business etc, it's costing millions.

Bloody hell, no wonder the Met is in such a mess if an (ex?) copper thinks there is a side that is fine with mob rule.
How about just arresting everybody who attacks him or shutting down the hate marches in the first place. You know actually doing your job.

I'm looking at it from a point of view that makes the difficult life of The Met a little easier for them. Remove one bloke or try and remove a few thousand.

Everyone has the right to protest, both sides of this debate but if there's a small spark that may ignite things (this bloke) then I'm saying I can see why they did what they did.

The police are simply outnumbered, even with a thousand or so officers taken from other forces most weekends. They're stuck in a very difficult position as usual, I'd love to know how you suggest shutting these marches down?

Completely agree, suspect that in order to completely ensure the safety of this one guy the complainers would soon be whining on about the cost and numbers of officers required, or any measures to shut the marches down.

Just look at the circumstances discussed on this very thread many pages back when following complaints and false accusations by Pro Palestinian protestors and violence towards a single individual there was a very quick arrest, containment, rapid investigation and de-arrest. There are some on here who are really clueless about dealing with large protests when outnumbered, rapid de-escalation required and the true facts established with hundreds of potentially bad faith actors and police auditors with phones and cameras clamouring to show something out of context.

[bitchstewie]

Jesus wept.

Met Police apologise for 'hugely regrettable' actions and 'poor choice of words' by officer who threatened to arrest charity chief for being 'openly Jewish' and 'breaching the peace' near Gaza march

[ChocolateFrog]

I really hope there's more to that story and he was there to deliberately stir up tensions otherwise the lunatics really have taken over.

It's not an exaggeration to say there are no-go zones for Jews in the UK.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 19th April 19:41

[fizz47]

Where are these no go zones ?

[Goaty Bill 2]

ChocolateFrog said:

I really hope there's more to that story and he was there to deliberately stir up tensions otherwise the lunatics really have taken over.

It's not an exaggeration to say there are no-go zones for Jews in the UK.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 19th April 19:41

Video is available on youtube.

[Vanden Saab]

ChocolateFrog said:

I really hope there's more to that story and he was there to deliberately stir up tensions otherwise the lunatics really have taken over.

It's not an exaggeration to say there are no-go zones for Jews in the UK.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 19th April 19:41

Sorry what? Certain people are not allowed in the vicinity of a march because they might stir up tensions? Just have a little think about what you just wrote.

[anonymoususer]

Vanden Saab said:

ChocolateFrog said:

I really hope there's more to that story and he was there to deliberately stir up tensions otherwise the lunatics really have taken over.

It's not an exaggeration to say there are no-go zones for Jews in the UK.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 19th April 19:41

Sorry what? Certain people are not allowed in the vicinity of a march because they might stir up tensions? Just have a little think about what you just wrote.

The Met police are simply drowning in their own clumsyness

[bitchstewie]

You couldn't make this st up.

[wc98]

fizz47 said:

Where are these no go zones ?

The other side of the road from where the bloke in the video above was standing apparently. why not watch it, maybe enlighten yourself to what is going on.

[wc98]

bhstewie said:

You couldn't make this st up.

That spineless clown Rowley needs to get his and the Mets act together quickly or they will have blood on their hands.

[bitchstewie]

It's fk up after fk up.

Their previous statement (the one they removed) was like some sort of sick joke.

[wc98]

Greendubber said:

I'm looking at it from a point of view that makes the difficult life of The Met a little easier for them. Remove one bloke or try and remove a few thousand.

Everyone has the right to protest, both sides of this debate but if there's a small spark that may ignite things (this bloke) then I'm saying I can see why they did what they did.

The police are simply outnumbered, even with a thousand or so officers taken from other forces most weekends. They're stuck in a very difficult position as usual, I'd love to know how you suggest shutting these marches down?

Must be a different type of officer from those that served during the miners strike, didn't seem to mind breaking up peaceful gatherings with violence back then.

[768]

I read the statement where the Met blamed their officer for the use of two words... then watched the video for a completely different perspective.

To miss the point by so many miles must be deliberate.

[Ridgemont]

bhstewie said:

It's fk up after fk up.

Their previous statement (the one they removed) was like some sort of sick joke.

To be fair (and I can’t believe I’m typing this) I watched the video and my first thought was ‘why on earth are you trying to cross across in front of those numptards. His argument was that that was on his way home: well welcome to the new new world of marchers rules.

[Vanden Saab]

bhstewie said:

You couldn't make this st up.

And the statement they removed...




To coin a phrase Jesus fking wept...

[snuffy]

PC Savage from NTNOCN is alive and well then.

[Oliver Hardy]

Ridgemont said:

bhstewie said:

It's fk up after fk up.

Their previous statement (the one they removed) was like some sort of sick joke.

To be fair (and I can’t believe I’m typing this) I watched the video and my first thought was ‘why on earth are you trying to cross across in front of those numptards. His argument was that that was on his way home: well welcome to the new new world of marchers rules.

Why should anyone have a problem coming across a protest march for peace/jihad, whatever sign or dress they have?

[Goaty Bill 2]

Iranian Niyak Ghorbani arrested five times now I believe for holding a sign saying 'Hamas is Terrorist' .
The last time in spite of a judge ruling that the police could not bar him from attending the protests.



It's Saturday. I expect we will be able to add to that count today.