Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
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I doubt you'll get much more than a one liner if anything at all. Then again characterising higher eduction as a degree in modern dance is as decent an effort at undermining yourself as you'll ever see around here.
It's all rooted in the politics of resentment, the idea that they think they're better than us & we'll show them. In other words, fertile soil for the populist chancers to make a quick buck off the perma outraged, Three pages of this & no one thought to look up educational outcomes or social demographics in Blackpool.
It's all rooted in the politics of resentment, the idea that they think they're better than us & we'll show them. In other words, fertile soil for the populist chancers to make a quick buck off the perma outraged, Three pages of this & no one thought to look up educational outcomes or social demographics in Blackpool.
heebeegeetee said:
I think you're reading or following the wrong media.
When did radical Muslims last fly a bomber in British airspace? When was the last time radical Muslims invade or 'liberate' half of Europe and then keep it locked down for decades?
(I've always thought, had the Battle of Britain been lost we wouldn't now be speaking German we'd be speaking Russian).
One way or another Britain has had foot soldiers operating in Muslim countries for centuries - the odd suicide bomber apart, when did Muslim militia last step foot on British or European soil? (Would the Balkans count)?
How many nuclear weapons have Muslim nations tested?
I think whatever you're reading, it's misleading you.
Haha.....OK mate.When did radical Muslims last fly a bomber in British airspace? When was the last time radical Muslims invade or 'liberate' half of Europe and then keep it locked down for decades?
(I've always thought, had the Battle of Britain been lost we wouldn't now be speaking German we'd be speaking Russian).
One way or another Britain has had foot soldiers operating in Muslim countries for centuries - the odd suicide bomber apart, when did Muslim militia last step foot on British or European soil? (Would the Balkans count)?
How many nuclear weapons have Muslim nations tested?
I think whatever you're reading, it's misleading you.
How's the view with your head in the sand?
Kermit power said:
You're reading it the wrong way around.
In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
Unless you're comparing similar crimes and sentences this isnt particularly useful information.....In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
Dagnir said:
Killboy said:
What are "non British" men in the country then? Not "nuts and bolts"? I'm an immigrant if it makes it easier to paint a picture for me.
Try Google translate, or a dictionary...I asked ChatGPT
Dagnir said:
In Britain, as in many democratic countries, the right to vote is typically granted to all citizens over a certain age, regardless of race or gender. The legal voting age in the UK is 18. So, 60-year-old white British men do not have more right to vote than anyone else based solely on their age, race, or gender. All citizens who meet the age requirement have an equal right to vote in elections.
Killboy said:
Dagnir said:
Killboy said:
What are "non British" men in the country then? Not "nuts and bolts"? I'm an immigrant if it makes it easier to paint a picture for me.
Try Google translate, or a dictionary...I asked ChatGPT
Dagnir said:
In Britain, as in many democratic countries, the right to vote is typically granted to all citizens over a certain age, regardless of race or gender. The legal voting age in the UK is 18. So, 60-year-old white British men do not have more right to vote than anyone else based solely on their age, race, or gender. All citizens who meet the age requirement have an equal right to vote in elections.
swisstoni said:
Have more Britons died at the hands of Islamists or Russians in the last, say, 20 years?
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.heebeegeetee said:
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.
You people just can't help yourselves can you?
It's hilarious. Like some kind of fanatical compulsion.
Must...not.....admit truth.....must deflect....deflect......Britain bad....Britain evil.....look over there!
It's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing.
heebeegeetee said:
Dagnir said:
Russia more of a threat to the UK than radical Muslims from the Middle East?
Have you been living under a rock??
This is the kind of willful blindness (insanity?) that has got us into this mess.
I think you're reading or following the wrong media.Have you been living under a rock??
This is the kind of willful blindness (insanity?) that has got us into this mess.
When did radical Muslims last fly a bomber in British airspace? When was the last time radical Muslims invade or 'liberate' half of Europe and then keep it locked down for decades?
(I've always thought, had the Battle of Britain been lost we wouldn't now be speaking German we'd be speaking Russian).
One way or another Britain has had foot soldiers operating in Muslim countries for centuries - the odd suicide bomber apart, when did Muslim militia last step foot on British or European soil? (Would the Balkans count)?
How many nuclear weapons have Muslim nations tested?
I think whatever you're reading, it's misleading you.
Dagnir said:
Kermit power said:
You're reading it the wrong way around.
In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
Unless you're comparing similar crimes and sentences this isnt particularly useful information.....In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
turbobloke said:
Kermit power said:
In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
Just checking...Populist, does that refer to politics more likely to be voted for, i.e. democracy in action?
As opposed to the unpopular politics espoused by some politicians who think they know best and therefore what should be forced on the people, i.e. arrogance and not democracy?
Politicians don't know better, not by a long expenses claim form.
I know it's generally viewed as right wing, but to my mind the first I ever saw of it was from the likes of the Socialist Workers at Uni, so I'm not sure why it does get pigeonholed that way. Maybe because most Western nations now have both in and out of work benefit schemes which suffice to placate those who might otherwise fall under the spell of far left populists?
Dagnir said:
It's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing.
Dear god 
From making a comment on PH to "'it's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing."
What a f
king nutcase you must be! This Islamic threat to the UK, is it changing your life in any way? I know it's not mine. Remind me what I'm supposed to be scared of? What "truth" is it I must not admit?
Kermit power said:
Dagnir said:
Kermit power said:
You're reading it the wrong way around.
In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
Unless you're comparing similar crimes and sentences this isnt particularly useful information.....In a world where lots of people on the populist end of politics love to moan about the fact that the courts have gone soft and nobody gets a proper jail sentence anymore, average sentences have nearly doubled over the past two decades.
Unless you compare the same crime, you can't demonstrate whether the sentences for said crime were less, or more lenient.
Average salaries have risen in the past few decades...does that mean we're all richer?
heebeegeetee said:
swisstoni said:
Have more Britons died at the hands of Islamists or Russians in the last, say, 20 years?
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.Pan Pan Pan said:
More Muslims have died at the hands of other Muslims, than at the hands of any other nation.
Religious groups/nations/collectives have been tearing each other apart for centuries and will continue to do so. What has this got to do with Reform?
Meantime, a megalomaniac with enormous military power has invaded and is in the process of destroying a European country right on the border of the EU. That megalomaniac could inflict severe damage to the EU/West/UK that would last for centuries, at the push of some buttons. That megalomaniac is inflicting severe damage to that European country right now as we speak, causing damage that will take decades to put right, if indeed it ever can.
Remind me what is is with dark skinned people I'm supposed to be scared of?
heebeegeetee said:
Dear god
From making a comment on PH to "'it's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing."
What a fking nutcase you must be!
This Islamic threat to the UK, is it changing your life in any way? I know it's not mine. Remind me what I'm supposed to be scared of? What "truth" is it I must not admit?
How do you not see it though?From making a comment on PH to "'it's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing."
What a f
king nutcase you must be! This Islamic threat to the UK, is it changing your life in any way? I know it's not mine. Remind me what I'm supposed to be scared of? What "truth" is it I must not admit?
We were, for whatever reason, discussing who the greater threat to us was (radical islam or Russia) and because you're not allowed to actually articulate what we all already know....you have to delect onto how evil the British Army is.
You're so programmed to hate Britain, that you prostrate yourself in the defense of people that want you dead.
You REALLY don't see it?
Dagnir said:
heebeegeetee said:
Dear god
From making a comment on PH to "'it's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing."
What a fking nutcase you must be!
This Islamic threat to the UK, is it changing your life in any way? I know it's not mine. Remind me what I'm supposed to be scared of? What "truth" is it I must not admit?
How do you not see it though?From making a comment on PH to "'it's people like this that birthed the whole NPC thing."
What a f
king nutcase you must be! This Islamic threat to the UK, is it changing your life in any way? I know it's not mine. Remind me what I'm supposed to be scared of? What "truth" is it I must not admit?
We were, for whatever reason, discussing who the greater threat to us was (radical islam or Russia) and because you're not allowed to actually articulate what we all already know....you have to delect onto how evil the British Army is.
You're so programmed to hate Britain, that you prostrate yourself in the defense of people that want you dead.
You REALLY don't see it?
I fecking don't, no! I've gone from making a comment on a motoring forum to all of that! What the hell is wrong with you?
The history of Britain has caused a great deal of difficulty in the world, the consequences of which is causing problems to this day and is still affecting us.
That's just fact, and you extrapolate that to: "You're so programmed to hate Britain, that you prostrate yourself in the defense of people that want you dead."
You are insane!
I can certainly see what's triggering you.
PS: Show me where I've "defended".
President Merkin said:
Yep, prime Reform meat. As ever, I would have expected the self proclaimed moderate Reformites, all about the economic reforms to have slapped this guy down by now, what with never ever no siree being racist & all that. I'm sure they'll all be along presently.
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