Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
Discussion
Pan Pan Pan said:
heebeegeetee said:
swisstoni said:
Have more Britons died at the hands of Islamists or Russians in the last, say, 20 years?
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.I would imagine the only global religion who haven't killed more of their own than anyone else are the Jews?
Carl_VivaEspana said:
There's probably 2 million votes to be won simply by removing IR35, it's a political no-brainer.
It's not difficult to avoid IR35, just don't look like a disguised employee. Of course, if you look and act like an employee then expect to pay the same tax as a permie. Anyway, back to why Reform are a shower of s
t...All of the Main Parties are very liberal and very social. They all promote very high taxes and immigration. They are very big business so they love big projects and big warehouses giving lots of low paid work but they aren’t much interested in small business or on protecting the rural environment. They are all big Wind farms and have no aesthetic appreciation of the beauty of our Country. They are pro house building, pro inflating GDP while no worrying about per Capita growth which is the only one that matters. They are all poor on defence just when we need to have a strong defence and they all get off up by collecting data on us. I want a culture of policing that does stop and search based on evidence, the Main political establishment have tied the Police up in so much Political bureaucracy that most Cops are unable to do their jobs properly. If you do get a custodial sentence then you’ll be out in half the time and if you do t want to work then the state will pay you lots of money not to have to whilst importing loads of immigrants to do the job that you should be doing. Then the narrative is how the NHS will fall over if we don’t have huge immigration…of course it will us Brits are too thick to train to be Dcotors and Nurses…it’s a deliberate deception and I can’t believe people believe that crap. I just think everything is broken, the roads are st but they want to put speed cameras and ULEZ zones everywhere…completely backwards thinking. I can’t think of a single area where we are well governed and things are as they should be.
That’s why I have given up on the main parties….they are all fkin st and should all be shot to misquote Hester what’s his name.
t but they want to put speed cameras and ULEZ zones everywhere…completely backwards thinking. I can’t think of a single area where we are well governed and things are as they should be.That’s why I have given up on the main parties….they are all f
kin st and should all be shot to misquote Hester what’s his name.B'stard Child said:
I reckon that a lot of NP&E are. Certainly explains a few things
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MiniMan64 said:
Crippo said:
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They are all big Wind farms and have no aesthetic appreciation of the beauty of our Country.
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There’s a whole lot to unpick in that post but I’m a particular fan of this one. Where would you like our power to come from? They are all big Wind farms and have no aesthetic appreciation of the beauty of our Country.
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Crippo said:
All of the Main Parties are very liberal and very social. They all promote very high taxes and immigration. They are very big business so they love big projects and big warehouses giving lots of low paid work but they aren’t much interested in small business or on protecting the rural environment. They are all big Wind farms and have no aesthetic appreciation of the beauty of our Country. They are pro house building, pro inflating GDP while no worrying about per Capita growth which is the only one that matters. They are all poor on defence just when we need to have a strong defence and they all get off up by collecting data on us. I want a culture of policing that does stop and search based on evidence, the Main political establishment have tied the Police up in so much Political bureaucracy that most Cops are unable to do their jobs properly. If you do get a custodial sentence then you’ll be out in half the time and if you do t want to work then the state will pay you lots of money not to have to whilst importing loads of immigrants to do the job that you should be doing. Then the narrative is how the NHS will fall over if we don’t have huge immigration…of course it will us Brits are too thick to train to be Dcotors and Nurses…it’s a deliberate deception and I can’t believe people believe that crap. I just think everything is broken, the roads are st but they want to put speed cameras and ULEZ zones everywhere…completely backwards thinking. I can’t think of a single area where we are well governed and things are as they should be.
What's wrong with being liberal and social? You want to pay less tax, but have better public services? You want more police? A better armed military? A better health service? That all costs money.t but they want to put speed cameras and ULEZ zones everywhere…completely backwards thinking. I can’t think of a single area where we are well governed and things are as they should be.Crippo said:
That’s why I have given up on the main parties….they are all fkin st and should all be shot to misquote Hester what’s his name.
The mismanagement of public services can be blamed entirely at the door of this conservative government which decided that austerity was a good starting point for reducing public spending and have continued with that approach ever since. The fault isn't UK politics it's the conservatives.kin st and should all be shot to misquote Hester what’s his name.
Mrr T said:
How about all those not on IR35 who may have to pay more tax. More than 2m votes lost there.
I think you have that the wrong way around Mr T.It illustrates my point though because the debate on tax has been dumbed down into a binary choice.
You can tax revenue generators and risk takers at whatever levels the majority feel appropriate, just don't expect the minority stick around and pay the bills.
Therefore, once the revenue generators flee, taxes actually go up for those that remain (no pun intended) or, spending has to be cut.
Kermit power said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
heebeegeetee said:
swisstoni said:
Have more Britons died at the hands of Islamists or Russians in the last, say, 20 years?
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.I would imagine the only global religion who haven't killed more of their own than anyone else are the Jews?
Hammersia said:
Kermit power said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
heebeegeetee said:
swisstoni said:
Have more Britons died at the hands of Islamists or Russians in the last, say, 20 years?
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.I would imagine the only global religion who haven't killed more of their own than anyone else are the Jews?
smn159 said:
Hammersia said:
Kermit power said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
heebeegeetee said:
swisstoni said:
Have more Britons died at the hands of Islamists or Russians in the last, say, 20 years?
As tragic as any death is, you're in the science of very low numbers there. Certainly a lot more Muslims have dies at the hands of the British Army, and they weren't exactly defending their homeland, so I'm not sure who poses the biggest threat to who.I would imagine the only global religion who haven't killed more of their own than anyone else are the Jews?
can't help wondering who have killed most of their own?
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