Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[President Merkin]

smn159 said:

If that's true then the racist candidates who were happily accepted and only binned off when outed by HNH has views which aligned perfectly with the those of the party

What sort of views are being 'actively rejected'?

Mostly the ones HNH expose. This isn't the first time Cranky has attempted to whitewash Reform's loony candidate clear out with transparent revisionism.

[Dagnir]

hidetheelephants said:

eform has a major problem with candidates being closet and not-so-closet racists, so it's very relevant, in context and not at all willy-nilly.

That wasn't the point being made.

[crankedup5]

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. is actively rejecting candidates which do not align with the views and policies of the Party.

If that's true then the racist candidates who were happily accepted and only binned off when outed by HNH has views which aligned perfectly with the those of the party

What sort of views are being 'actively rejected'?

I’ve already said, the views which do not align with the Party policies and views. Not always easy to weed these people out as Labour found out recently.

[valiant]

crankedup5 said:

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. is actively rejecting candidates which do not align with the views and policies of the Party.

If that's true then the racist candidates who were happily accepted and only binned off when outed by HNH has views which aligned perfectly with the those of the party

What sort of views are being 'actively rejected'?

I’ve already said, the views which do not align with the Party policies and views. Not always easy to weed these people out as Labour found out recently.

But they aren’t ‘actively’ rejecting candidates are they?

They are acting reactively to the candidates who have been exposed by HNH.

Big difference.

[Mrr T]

Vanden Saab said:

Mrr T said:

Gecko1978 said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

President Merkin said:

Rufus Stone said:

What is Reform's plan to stop the boats?

Ooh, I know the answer to this.

1) Do a pointless thing
2) Remove your human rights, joining Belarus & Russia in the process.
3) Deny reality
4) Duplicate a civil service function at the taxpayer's expense
5) Get laughed at, then shot at by the French navy
6) Do a thing that would obviate the previous five things that should have been done in the first place.

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Just a out loud thought but 5 is I believe illegal but lets say we did drop people back off in france what would happen

Forcing people who have no right to be in France to return to France would be contrary to a number of French laws from people trafficking to assault. If a boat sinks even more serious charges. For this reason the Navy and Coast Guard would refuse such orders. Tickle could get some mates to use there private boats for the task. In which case the French authorities would arrest and imprison them. I would pay to see that.

Really?

link said:

Albanian migrants returned to France after trying to enter Guernsey by boat

https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-08-17/albanian-migrants-returned-to-france-after-trying-to-enter-guernsey

Are you suggesting the Reform policy only applies to Albanians? Maybe the word is in invisible ink.

Let me give you a clue from my post.


" no right to be in France "

[smn159]

valiant said:

crankedup5 said:

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. is actively rejecting candidates which do not align with the views and policies of the Party.

If that's true then the racist candidates who were happily accepted and only binned off when outed by HNH has views which aligned perfectly with the those of the party

What sort of views are being 'actively rejected'?

I’ve already said, the views which do not align with the Party policies and views. Not always easy to weed these people out as Labour found out recently.

But they aren’t ‘actively’ rejecting candidates are they?

They are acting reactively to the candidates who have been exposed by HNH.

Big difference.

Quite. They're happily accepting loons with racist social media profiles to represent them, then folding like a house of cards as soon as anyone outside of the party notices.

[Killboy]

Pan Pan Pan said:

No I do not. But at least I am able to acknowledge that.

Can you point to anyone that is not acknowledging that? Or are you just the smartest on here?

[Killboy]

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. is actively rejecting candidates which do not align with the views and policies of the Party. That seems to me to be similar actions taken by all political parties.
If Reform U.K. were not taking such actions then I would be concerned.

Is that before they are outed (sorry, vetted by the press - lol)?

[crankedup5]

valiant said:

crankedup5 said:

smn159 said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. is actively rejecting candidates which do not align with the views and policies of the Party.

If that's true then the racist candidates who were happily accepted and only binned off when outed by HNH has views which aligned perfectly with the those of the party

What sort of views are being 'actively rejected'?

I’ve already said, the views which do not align with the Party policies and views. Not always easy to weed these people out as Labour found out recently.

But they aren’t ‘actively’ rejecting candidates are they?

They are acting reactively to the candidates who have been exposed by HNH.

Big difference.

In all cases?

[crankedup5]

Killboy said:

crankedup5 said:

Reform U.K. is actively rejecting candidates which do not align with the views and policies of the Party. That seems to me to be similar actions taken by all political parties.
If Reform U.K. were not taking such actions then I would be concerned.

Is that before they are outed (sorry, vetted by the press - lol)?

Bad apples are outed from all political parties of all rosette colours. Been the same for evermore.
Not much to get excited about.

[smn159]

None so blind...

[crankedup5]

smn159 said:

None so blind...

You will find that issue in all political parties.

[turbobloke]

crankedup5 said:

You will find that issue in all political parties.

Yes indeed.

Though particularly so in the irony seen with self-righteous supporters of left-illiberal parties, who think they can see what other people should think and do, which is basically think like them - after which the rest follows. As they're with the angels sitting on a moral pinnacle high above others, this is reasonable.



Reform has views on political policy which some disagree with, and even with a question mark on the thread title, it's more of the same thought policing. Being intolerant of other viewpoints is a symptom of what's going wrong.

[tangerine_sedge]

crankedup5 said:

smn159 said:

None so blind...

You will find that issue in all political parties Ltd Companies.

There, fixed that for you

Also, I'm sure the other political 'parties' kick out their undesirables PDQ, rather than suggest that they just don't post their real opinions on social media after having a few glasses of wine.

[S600BSB]

turbobloke said:

crankedup5 said:

You will find that issue in all political parties.

Yes indeed.

Though particularly so in the irony seen with self-righteous supporters of left-illiberal parties, who think they can see what other people should think and do, which is basically think like them - after which the rest follows. As they're with the angels sitting on a moral pinnacle high above others, this is reasonable.



Reform has views on political policy which some disagree with, and even with a question mark on the thread title, it's more of the same thought policing. Being intolerant of other viewpoints is a symptom of what's going wrong.

I think you two old fellas are a lot closer to sitting with the angels than most of us!!

[tangerine_sedge]

turbobloke said:

Being intolerant of other viewpoints is a symptom of what's going wrong.

Gosh! My irony meter just exploded.

Luckily my sarcasm-generator is still fully functional.

[smn159]

turbobloke said:

Being intolerant of other viewpoints...etc

Ah, those 'other viewpoints'...





Anyone with half a brain would be pretty intolerant of such 'other viewpoints'. YMMV, obvs.

[bitchstewie]

Yeah get ready for some word salad or a disappearing act.

[Randy Winkman]

smn159 said:

turbobloke said:

Being intolerant of other viewpoints...etc

Ah, those 'other viewpoints'...





Anyone with half a brain would be pretty intolerant of such 'other viewpoints'. YMMV, obvs.

No!!! It's the left who are intolerant!!!

[tangerine_sedge]

bhstewie said:

Yeah get ready for some word salad or a disappearing act.

TB would never do that. /sarcasm