Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
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Baroque attacks said:
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
None so blind...
You will find that issue in all 
Also, I'm sure the other political 'parties' kick out their undesirables PDQ, rather than suggest that they just don't post their real opinions on social media after having a few glasses of wine.
Reform UK election hopefuls exposed over 'white pride' and Islamophobic rants
Don’t think we’ve had this one yet, but Reform does churn them out at some pace!
Reform's problem isn't even the crackpot PPC's that keep popping up, The pond they're fishing in will always discount anything. Cranky insisting it weeds them out when the reality is pointed out to him repeatedly is a very good example of this. To these people, their minds are made up & no amount of truth can intercede. So that demographic is a given & it's always around the 10-15% mark of the eletorate.
Their real problem is translating their message at the ballot box & I see no evidence they'll do that either this time or next. Assuming a Labour government next & a period of political cooling, whcih may or may not happen, then even the 10% level of polling may not be sustainable for them but even if so, it will remain a decent earner for it's handful of shareholders & their paying punters.
Their real problem is translating their message at the ballot box & I see no evidence they'll do that either this time or next. Assuming a Labour government next & a period of political cooling, whcih may or may not happen, then even the 10% level of polling may not be sustainable for them but even if so, it will remain a decent earner for it's handful of shareholders & their paying punters.
AW111 said:
Baroque attacks said:
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
None so blind...
You will find that issue in all Also, I'm sure the other political 'parties' kick out their undesirables PDQ, rather than suggest that they just don't post their real opinions on social media after having a few glasses of wine.
Reform UK election hopefuls exposed over 'white pride' and Islamophobic rants
Don’t think we’ve had this one yet, but Reform does churn them out at some pace!
Baroque attacks said:
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
None so blind...
You will find that issue in all Also, I'm sure the other political 'parties' kick out their undesirables PDQ, rather than suggest that they just don't post their real opinions on social media after having a few glasses of wine.
Reform UK election hopefuls exposed over 'white pride' and Islamophobic rants
Don’t think we’ve had this one yet, but Reform does churn them out at some pace!
crankedup5 said:
New political party attracting candidates to stand for election, no surprise that amongst those that come forward are a few undesirable characters.
Seems to be quite of few illiterate racists making it through, I wonder whya) They don't bother with even cursory checks and let anyone in - surely not for a party of authoritarians who's big selling point is taking back control of points of entry. They state that this is easy for the country as a whole, so surely no problem to check the social media of a few candidates?
b) they know exactly who they're getting and the views that they hold and have no issue with them until they're found out
My money is on b], particularly as some of them have been out campaigning with Tice and Farage, who presumably had no issues with their views. Maybe they just forgot to ask them though
What do you think?
Baroque attacks said:
It’s interesting as these people either are/were candidates or had already stood at the last round of elections.
So I’d suggest you mean ‘attract and accept’.
Except of course Reform U.K. intend to field a candidate in every consituency, far more candidate applications sought than in UKIP. More applications to sort through.So I’d suggest you mean ‘attract and accept’.
smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
New political party attracting candidates to stand for election, no surprise that amongst those that come forward are a few undesirable characters.
Seems to be quite of few illiterate racists making it through, I wonder whya) They don't bother with even cursory checks and let anyone in - surely not for a party of authoritarians who's big selling point is taking back control of points of entry. They state that this is easy for the country as a whole, so surely no problem to check the social media of a few candidates?
b) they know exactly who they're getting and the views that they hold and have no issue with them until they're found out
My money is on b], particularly as some of them have been out campaigning with Tice and Farage, who presumably had no issues with their views. Maybe they just forgot to ask them though
What do you think?
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
crankedup5 said:
Baroque attacks said:
It’s interesting as these people either are/were candidates or had already stood at the last round of elections.
So I’d suggest you mean ‘attract and accept’.
Except of course Reform U.K. intend to field a candidate in every consituency, far more candidate applications sought than in UKIP. More applications to sort through.So I’d suggest you mean ‘attract and accept’.
Edited by Baroque attacks on Tuesday 16th April 16:11
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Yes Cranked and isn't it funny how you only seem to have had this epiphany having pinned all your hopes to Brexit only to watch it turn to st at which point you'll eagerly vote for the next bunch of populists who tell you they can make it work.
Talk about malleable.
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.t at which point you'll eagerly vote for the next bunch of populists who tell you they can make it work.Talk about malleable.
Pan Pan Pan said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Yes Cranked and isn't it funny how you only seem to have had this epiphany having pinned all your hopes to Brexit only to watch it turn to st at which point you'll eagerly vote for the next bunch of populists who tell you they can make it work.
Talk about malleable.
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.t at which point you'll eagerly vote for the next bunch of populists who tell you they can make it work.Talk about malleable.
Just maybe the country can start having more grown up conversations about things once some actual grown ups are in charge.
In any case, it's either Labour or it's continue as we are, so it's a bit of a no-brainer - unless of course you're happy with the infantilisation of the national conversation under the Tory / Reform agenda, in which case crack on.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.
What moon-sticks are they offering? I've just looked at their missions and it seems alright?Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.
No I don't.But as above what I don't see, so far, is a weirdly unhealthy focus on "woke", the EU, boats and brown people.
Reform are just pandering to Farage's old UKIP base and the people for who are disappointed the Conservatives aren't hateful enough for their liking.
Birds of a feather and all that.
Killboy said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.
What moon-sticks are they offering? I've just looked at their missions and it seems alright?smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
Labour and Tory have failed the Country over the past 50 years. That’s a strong reason not to vote for another round of deeper failure, and you talk about competency, honesty literacy
crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
Labour and Tory have failed the Country over the past 50 years. That’s a strong reason not to vote for another round of deeper failure, and you talk about competency, honesty literacy
You're just upset because you believed the bulls
t from a known bullstter and now like a spoilt child can't admit that the party and people you were so convinced were the answer were in fact bullstters all along. You are now doubling down on the stupidity by declaring your undying love for a different bunch of bullstters and chancers.crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
Labour and Tory have failed the Country over the past 50 years. That’s a strong reason not to vote for another round of deeper failure, and you talk about competency, honesty literacy
tangerine_sedge said:
In general terms, they really haven't failed the country over the last 50 years, it's just since austerity (and the Tory party response) that things have turned for the worse.
You're just upset because you believed the bullst from a known bullstter and now like a spoilt child can't admit that the party and people you were so convinced were the answer were in fact bullstters all along. You are now doubling down on the stupidity by declaring your undying love for a different bunch of bullstters and chancers.
Cranked is just a loyal Farage supporter.You're just upset because you believed the bulls
t from a known bullstter and now like a spoilt child can't admit that the party and people you were so convinced were the answer were in fact bullstters all along. You are now doubling down on the stupidity by declaring your undying love for a different bunch of bullstters and chancers.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff