Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

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Evercross

6,052 posts

65 months

Wednesday 10th April
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anonymoususer said:
Brilliant analysis deserves a brilliant picture and they don't get much better than this one


hehe
So much wrong with that.

irc

7,376 posts

137 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Heard the head of the Scottish Police Federation on Radio Scotland today. Pointing out that after the hate crime reports the next big demand on police resources will be subject access requests as everyone requests copies of any info Police Scotland hold on them in case they have been recorded on a non crime hate incident.

I actually think it is utterly astounding that the police think it acceptable to get a 3rd party report which they assess as no crime and thereafter record a non crime hate incident without telling the person who was complained about.

This could lead to someone failing to get a job based on innaccurate information recorded by the police which they didn't know was there.

In any case, aparently there is a 1 month time limit for the police to respond to subject access reports. The Fed guy said that would involve a lot of work. If the one month target is missed there could then be complaints to the Information Commisioner. That would then be more work responding to the complaint.


Catweazle

1,173 posts

143 months

Wednesday 10th April
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irc said:
Heard the head of the Scottish Police Federation on Radio Scotland today. Pointing out that after the hate crime reports the next big demand on police resources will be subject access requests as everyone requests copies of any info Police Scotland hold on them in case they have been recorded on a non crime hate incident.

I actually think it is utterly astounding that the police think it acceptable to get a 3rd party report which they assess as no crime and thereafter record a non crime hate incident without telling the person who was complained about.

This could lead to someone failing to get a job based on innaccurate information recorded by the police which they didn't know was there.

In any case, aparently there is a 1 month time limit for the police to respond to subject access reports. The Fed guy said that would involve a lot of work. If the one month target is missed there could then be complaints to the Information Commisioner. That would then be more work responding to the complaint.
It's almost as if someone wants the police chasing their tails rather than investigating crimes such as, oh, let's say abduction and extortion or misfeasance in public office.

Vanden Saab

14,179 posts

75 months

Thursday 11th April
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General Price said:
Klippie said:
The first weeks figures of hate crimes are in, from the SNP's propaganda machine...BBC Scotland.

And surprise surprise the largest amount is race related.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2x3ljydn67o
Anyone complain about the lorry taking their brother in law to jail being white?
They used to be black...


scz4

2,507 posts

242 months

Thursday 11th April
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This popped up on my YouTube feed this morning. Looks like the SNP are a laughing stock as far away as Australia. Doesn't reflect well on Scotland. I like how they picked up on the BBC's reporting too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTD-SyEXe5E





Edited by scz4 on Thursday 11th April 09:08

Earthdweller

13,631 posts

127 months

Thursday 11th April
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Vanden Saab said:
General Price said:
Klippie said:
The first weeks figures of hate crimes are in, from the SNP's propaganda machine...BBC Scotland.

And surprise surprise the largest amount is race related.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2x3ljydn67o
Anyone complain about the lorry taking their brother in law to jail being white?
They used to be black...

Slight technical point the Met Police transport fleet was actually dark green

Anyway as you were smile

Earthdweller

13,631 posts

127 months

Thursday 11th April
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scz4 said:
This popped up on my YouTube feed this morning. Looks like the SNP are a laughing stock as far away as Australia. Doesn't reflect well on Scotland. I like how they picked up on the BBC's reporting too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTD-SyEXe5E





Edited by scz4 on Thursday 11th April 09:08
Hilarious

Over half the complaints were about him complaining about everybody being white in a country that’s 96% white

His response was all the complainants were “far right” simple, end of .. nothing to see here

cuprabob

14,729 posts

215 months

Thursday 11th April
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Vanden Saab said:
General Price said:
Klippie said:
The first weeks figures of hate crimes are in, from the SNP's propaganda machine...BBC Scotland.

And surprise surprise the largest amount is race related.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2x3ljydn67o
Anyone complain about the lorry taking their brother in law to jail being white?
They used to be black...

Black Maria.

Klippie

3,187 posts

146 months

Thursday 11th April
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The MSP's from all parties costs for 2022/23, the claims limit it set at £139,200 maximum just look at how close to this limit some of them reached, Sturgeon claimed the full £139,200 as did Paul Sweeney from Labour.

For a grand total of £16,167,310.11...they are soaking this up every year, no wonder they fight tooth and nail to keep their noses in the trough.

https://www.parliament.scot/msps/members-expenses/...

sherman

13,405 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th April
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Klippie said:
The MSP's from all parties costs for 2022/23, the claims limit it set at £139,200 maximum just look at how close to this limit some of them reached, Sturgeon claimed the full £139,200 as did Paul Sweeney from Labour.

For a grand total of £16,167,310.11...they are soaking this up every year, no wonder they fight tooth and nail to keep their noses in the trough.

https://www.parliament.scot/msps/members-expenses/...
Is that not constituency office costs?
So paying for offices and staff,leaflets etc
MPs are almost a limited company and have to pay for their own offices and staff costs and then claim back from parliment.

alangla

4,864 posts

182 months

Thursday 11th April
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Another ferry goosed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce5lv3ddp6jo

The replacement that’s being brought in to cover was ordered when Jim Callaghan was in number 10…

Shambler

1,191 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th April
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Klippie said:
The MSP's from all parties costs for 2022/23, the claims limit it set at £139,200 maximum just look at how close to this limit some of them reached, Sturgeon claimed the full £139,200 as did Paul Sweeney from Labour.

For a grand total of £16,167,310.11...they are soaking this up every year, no wonder they fight tooth and nail to keep their noses in the trough.

https://www.parliament.scot/msps/members-expenses/...
How can Rosalind McCall manage on £40 k yet the majority are as close to the maximum

hidetheelephants

24,650 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th April
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Shambler said:
Klippie said:
The MSP's from all parties costs for 2022/23, the claims limit it set at £139,200 maximum just look at how close to this limit some of them reached, Sturgeon claimed the full £139,200 as did Paul Sweeney from Labour.

For a grand total of £16,167,310.11...they are soaking this up every year, no wonder they fight tooth and nail to keep their noses in the trough.

https://www.parliament.scot/msps/members-expenses/...
How can Rosalind McCall manage on £40 k yet the majority are as close to the maximum
She's really horrible to work for and can only hang on to one assistant? Has her partner volunteering as secretary? The others are presumably running with 3-4 FTE roles to run their offices.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Thursday 11th April 17:40

irc

7,376 posts

137 months

Thursday 11th April
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Great comment at The Herald.


"Having steered the SS Clustercluck slap into the gender-affirming iceberg it was entirely in character for Sturgeon then to nab the first seat in the lifeboat, fend off everyone else with an oar, then set sail into the sunset, leaving the whole charade to tear each others' throats out before sinking without trace, bar a slight malodorous residue at the bottom of the barrel."



https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/viewpoint/...

matchmaker

8,509 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th April
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Vanden Saab said:
General Price said:
Klippie said:
The first weeks figures of hate crimes are in, from the SNP's propaganda machine...BBC Scotland.

And surprise surprise the largest amount is race related.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2x3ljydn67o
Anyone complain about the lorry taking their brother in law to jail being white?
They used to be black...

Back in the 1970s Strathclyde Police had at least one full sized single decker blue Ford bus for prisoner transport. Often called into action when the notorious Sheriff Francis Middleton was on the bench at Glasgow Sheriff Court.

irc

7,376 posts

137 months

Thursday 11th April
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matchmaker said:
Back in the 1970s Strathclyde Police had at least one full sized single decker blue Ford bus for prisoner transport. Often called into action when the notorious Sheriff Francis Middleton was on the bench at Glasgow Sheriff Court.
Or the legendary Irvine Smith. A friend of mine was a criminal lawyer and appeared in front of Irvine Smith a few times after he moved to Greenock. He asked one accused why he had failed to appear at a previous hearing. When told it was because he couldn't afford the return fare Sheriff Smith responded "What made you think you would need a return?" Before giving him a custodial sentence.


Jader1973

4,035 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th April
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alangla said:
Another ferry goosed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce5lv3ddp6jo

The replacement that’s being brought in to cover was ordered when Jim Callaghan was in number 10…
It appears the lorries going over for the Millport seafront bdisation project have buggered the boat.

matchmaker

8,509 posts

201 months

Friday 12th April
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irc said:
matchmaker said:
Back in the 1970s Strathclyde Police had at least one full sized single decker blue Ford bus for prisoner transport. Often called into action when the notorious Sheriff Francis Middleton was on the bench at Glasgow Sheriff Court.
Or the legendary Irvine Smith. A friend of mine was a criminal lawyer and appeared in front of Irvine Smith a few times after he moved to Greenock. He asked one accused why he had failed to appear at a previous hearing. When told it was because he couldn't afford the return fare Sheriff Smith responded "What made you think you would need a return?" Before giving him a custodial sentence.

I never worked with J Irvine Smith. I did work with Francis Middleton after he retired and became a temporary Sheriff. He hadn't mellowed...

General Price

5,265 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April
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Jader1973 said:
alangla said:
Another ferry goosed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce5lv3ddp6jo

The replacement that’s being brought in to cover was ordered when Jim Callaghan was in number 10…
It appears the lorries going over for the Millport seafront bdisation project have buggered the boat.
Do these ferries not get regular safety checks?

How is it all of a sudden knackered when someone should have said 6 months ago,the hinges are going done,we better get some ordered so we don't have to wait for them when the ferry is in for repair.

hidetheelephants

24,650 posts

194 months

Friday 12th April
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Jader1973 said:
alangla said:
Another ferry goosed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce5lv3ddp6jo

The replacement that’s being brought in to cover was ordered when Jim Callaghan was in number 10…
It appears the lorries going over for the Millport seafront bdisation project have buggered the boat.
So many questions; AUIU most of the stuff for the scheme arrived on barges and why wasn't the damage spotted and the wagons told to GTF before it fked the ramps? This isn't something that suddenly broke having been fine the day before and "oh it will be months because the parts have to come from Poland" screams of no one having a fking clue and no one wants the blame.