Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

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Yahonza

1,630 posts

31 months

Thursday 25th April
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I can't see him losing, if there is one thing that this current parliament does very well it is making bad decisions.
Brave stuff from him though - the greens are the political equivalent of wearing lead boots and had to go.

cuprabob

14,675 posts

215 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
CoolHands said:
Seems like humza has castrated himself
That will help him empathise with the trans people. rofl
rofl

sherman

13,346 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th April
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Yahonza said:
I can't see him losing, if there is one thing that this current parliament does very well it is making bad decisions.
Brave stuff from him though - the greens are the political equivalent of wearing lead boots and had to go.
Greens, Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives have all said they will vote against Humza in the Nk confidence vote.

If Ash Regan votes no hes screwed
If Sturgeons arrested hes screwed
If an SNP goes rogue hes screwed.

If all that happens the parties over.

Party have 28 days to find a new leader after that. They struggled last time.

Im calling a full double Scottish parliment and Westminster election.

alangla

4,826 posts

182 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
If Nippy gets lifted cop in the next few days and cant vote in the No Confidence vote Ash Regans vote wont be so decisive
Can she vote if she’s on bail? Murrell was lifted and bailed the same day. Would be funny if she was in the cells during the vote. It’ll also fuel a million conspiracy theories, in both directions, if she’s lifted on the day of the vote or the day after

Yahonza

1,630 posts

31 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
Yahonza said:
I can't see him losing, if there is one thing that this current parliament does very well it is making bad decisions.
Brave stuff from him though - the greens are the political equivalent of wearing lead boots and had to go.
Greens, Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives have all said they will vote against Humza in the Nk confidence vote.

If Ash Regan votes no hes screwed
If Sturgeons arrested hes screwed
If an SNP goes rogue hes screwed.

If all that happens the parties over.

Party have 28 days to find a new leader after that. They struggled last time.

Im calling a full double Scottish parliment and Westminster election.
It needs all of them to vote and no abstentions - can't see that happening.
Maybe a few of the nats will vote for the motion, you never know.

hidetheelephants

24,472 posts

194 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
Yahonza said:
I can't see him losing, if there is one thing that this current parliament does very well it is making bad decisions.
Brave stuff from him though - the greens are the political equivalent of wearing lead boots and had to go.
Greens, Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives have all said they will vote against Humza in the Nk confidence vote.

If Ash Regan votes no hes screwed
If Sturgeons arrested hes screwed
If an SNP goes rogue hes screwed.

If all that happens the parties over.

Party have 28 days to find a new leader after that. They struggled last time.

Im calling a full double Scottish parliment and Westminster election.
I don't understand why they're separate anyway, it's a phenomenal waste of money.

sherman

13,346 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th April
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alangla said:
Can she vote if she’s on bail? Murrell was lifted and bailed the same day. Would be funny if she was in the cells during the vote. It’ll also fuel a million conspiracy theories, in both directions, if she’s lifted on the day of the vote or the day after
Bail conditions would probably be along the lines of no contact with the snp. Would make entering parliment difficult.
Murrell resigned from the party. I would expect Sturgeon would have to too.

tim0409

4,437 posts

160 months

Thursday 25th April
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I know this may be a little far fetched, but I can see Yousaf resigning before Wednesday’s vote.

Evercross

6,013 posts

65 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
Shes not giving the vote for free. She wants votes herself
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politi...
LOL. Regan wanted a referendum on Holyrood being given the powers to have pointless referenda on matters it does not have the power to legislate for.

None of it binding, none of it enforceable. Just expensive opinion polls paid for by the taxpayer. Legislating literally for the Neverendum.

I think the Rest of World has moved on from that nonsense.

The UK has learned that close-run referenda are politically corrosive for all concerned and lead to nothing more than wars of attrition. See Brexit.

sherman

13,346 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th April
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tim0409 said:
I know this may be a little far fetched, but I can see Yousaf resigning before Wednesday’s vote.
I doubt it but if he gets wind of a rebelion that will see him out anyway he might climb down but he wasnt bright enough to see the problems with the Greens 2 days ago.

Glasgowrob

3,246 posts

122 months

Thursday 25th April
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Imo Ross has played a blinder. Why pick the fight yourself and get involved in the mudslinging when you can merely illicit a civil war within the snp and let them do it to them selves leaving you looking like a dare I say it s respectable politician

Smart play imo

tim0409

4,437 posts

160 months

Thursday 25th April
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It’s a delightful irony that the person Yousaf described as “no great loss” when she to defected to Alba, now has his chestnuts firmly in her hand.

Vanden Saab

14,128 posts

75 months

Thursday 25th April
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Are the reports of a motorhome being parked outside Ash Regans home true.

sherman

13,346 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th April
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Evercross said:
sherman said:
Shes not giving the vote for free. She wants votes herself
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politi...
LOL. Regan wanted a referendum on Holyrood being given the powers to have pointless referenda on matters it does not have the power to legislate for.

None of it binding, none of it enforceable. Just expensive opinion polls paid for by the taxpayer. Legislating literally for the Neverendum.

I think the Rest of World has moved on from that nonsense.

The UK has learned that close-run referenda are politically corrosive for all concerned and lead to nothing more than wars of attrition. See Brexit.
Its lunacy but is it the cross Humzas willing to hang himself on to potentially stay in power for another few months?

Ziplobb

1,363 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th April
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he is A UC and deserves all he gets

Ecosseven

1,984 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
tim0409 said:
I know this may be a little far fetched, but I can see Yousaf resigning before Wednesday’s vote.
I doubt it but if he gets wind of a rebelion that will see him out anyway he might climb down but he wasnt bright enough to see the problems with the Greens 2 days ago.
It did cross my mind that SNP MSP's planning to stand down at the next Holyrood election might be tempted to vote for the motion. I'm sure Humza is not liked by all his party colleagues.

I guess we will see next week.

Klippie

3,167 posts

146 months

Thursday 25th April
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Watching some of the online commentators on the SNP / Green situation, they are saying is all kicking off behind the scenes, now I don't know if any of it is to be believed but there must be some truth to it.

Dumza will be the focus of the SNP's attention with the high rollers in the party probably gunning for his resignation, he's desperately trying to spin a line of "look at what the Toaries are doing to the UK" same old pish which got tired years ago, he's finished and knows it but he's determined to cling on whatever it takes.

I think he'll be gone soon.

jonny996

2,618 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April
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Following

Evercross

6,013 posts

65 months

Thursday 25th April
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sherman said:
Salmonds take on todays developments.

https://youtu.be/kgQOOwSyhQU?si=zhaKVGIdP-S7qVZx
He sounds like he was a few drams into a celebration already there.

Klippie

3,167 posts

146 months

Thursday 25th April
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Just seen this snippet...oh the little ste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z9NgW5QR4&ab...