Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Leithen]

It would appear that Useless's quite gargantuan ego has won the morning.

[tim0409]

hutchst said:

NoddyonNitrous said:

The convention is that the casting vote goes in favour of the status quo.

Has it happened before?

I assume it has otherwise it wouldn’t be a convention.

[tim0409]

I wonder if one of Ash Reagan’s demands is to have an independence thermometer installed in every town and city?

[csd19]

irc said:

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Watching News at Ten. Ross Geer looks like a spotty 6th year doesn't he?

Well he is a stay-at-home manchild, to be expected!

[Mercdriver]

It was bad enough when the greens were the tail wagging the dog how can it be democratic if one person is wagging the tail of the dog?

[Master Of Puppets]

Hilarious that the SNPs gardening division is now just division.

[wc98]

With the true nature of many of its incumbents finally being broadcast for all to see i hope this spurs more people on to have the diddy parliament removed forever. It's a needless waste of time, space and money with nothing good coming from it since inception, nothing.

[Evercross]

rider73 said:

Do we think here he may have been setup by his own people?
This bloody greens environment policy is killing us. Scrap it humza, it's what a true SNP leader will do....
Yeah yeah get rid of the greens coalition, before they get rid of you.... Otherwise it will look bad... Don't worry we're all behind you...
Ooo a no confidence vote
No problem we'll all back you
Oh they really did call for a no confidence vote....
Yeah you won't win. What option do you have. Better go mate.

I think you're bang-on (and if true it means my beginning of the month prediction was 100% - we're only 50% of the way there so far).

The SNP would have to hand Regan (and indirectly Salmond) the moon on a stick to get her to back Humza, considering all the nasty things he said about her and that he's utterly wedded to the woke pish, and I am pretty sure whoever it was that whispered into Humza's ear to break-off the Bute House Agreement knew exactly how it would pan out and had no intention of caving to Regan/Alba's demands.

This was a blinder by whoever to get Humza to remove himself from the leadership knowing his ego wouldn't stand first the Greens Marxists and then Douglas Ross/Ash Regan getting the jump on him.

Get him out the door and insert some old pal of Regan's who is still in the SNP that she could vote for without having to be bribed. Salmond nailed it yesterday when he said the secret of minority government is to make your opponents more scared of an election than you are and Humza clearly is not in that position. Regan could still be persuaded to prop-up the SNP government with a different face at the helm because she knows she'd be out on her arse as an Alba MP in a Holyrood vote.

Edited by Evercross on Friday 26th April 10:09

[alangla]

wc98 said:

With the true nature of many of its incumbents finally being broadcast for all to see i hope this spurs more people on to have the diddy parliament removed forever. It's a needless waste of time, space and money with nothing good coming from it since inception, nothing.

You say that, but the Church of Scotland did make a fair bit from renting out their Assembly Hall while the Parliament contrived to make an arse of building their own OTT building. All because Dewar couldn’t stomach a “Nationalist Shibboleth” of the old Royal High School on Calton Hill being used as the parliament building.

[NoddyonNitrous]

Wings' illustration of Dumza this morning; is there a significance to 6 fingers that I'm missing?

[Janluke]

NoddyonNitrous said:

Wings' illustration of Dumza this morning; is there a significance to 6 fingers that I'm missing?

AI generated, I think AI struggles with fingers

[Klippie]

If Dumza goes today or clings on for the forseable, the party as it stands is finished.

For all his posturing over that last day or two he's kidding no one, since the greens have come out to say they will be supporting the no confidence vote what is he going to do, surrendering to Ash Regan will upset more of the SNP and it all kicks off again.

Marvelous isn't it.

[Klippie]

Ash Regan's letter to Dumza...this is just mental, she is deluded if she thinks in the middle of everything that's going on that they can press for another independence referendum...billions to one chance of it happening.

[alangla]

Klippie said:

Ash Regan's letter to Dumza...this is just mental, she is deluded if she thinks in the middle of everything that's going on that they can press for another independence referendum...billions to one chance of it happening.

Personally I think she’s more deluded if she thinks the SNP can provide competent government for people and businesses across Scotland.

[irc]

If that is her redline to vote for Useless he is finished.

[Evercross]

Klippie said:

Ash Regan's letter to Dumza...this is just mental, she is deluded if she thinks in the middle of everything that's going on that they can press for another independence referendum...billions to one chance of it happening.

The Bill is a waste of time for two reasons. Firstly, all it could achieve is to legislate for ScotGov to hold non-binding referenda on non-competent issues at the public's expense.

Secondly there's a fair chance it would be blocked by a s.35 order as it would be deemed a unilateral change to UK-wide election law as it would create different regimes in different parts of the Union. Mike Russell fell foul of this when he tried to propose in the SNP's failed Referendum Bill that ScotGov could remove the Electoral Commission's place to set the question in an independence ballot.

Regan is over playing her hand, but then she's already demonstrated that while she's the flavour of the day she's ultimately not much brighter than Humza. The letter confirms what I was thinking that she's being played as much as him and she's dancing to the tune perfectly.

[Gecko1978]

Is Humza the same MSP who accused a nursery of being racist because they did not have a place for his kid

[Rick_1138]

Wife messaged me to say Humza has cancelled a speech today to consider.

[Ian974]

Well it's covering all bases anyway, SNP want a referendum if they do have a majority, alba wants a referendum because, erm, the SNP don't have a majority?
"Only independence can save Scotland from the pro independence parties!"

[Evercross]

Ian974 said:

"Only independence can save Scotland from the pro independence parties!"

It's not exactly a winning sales pitch, is it!!

With the prospect of a General Election and abundant overload of polarisation already in UK society (Brexit Hangover, Middle-eastern issue etc.) I think proffering (pointlessly, because the Supreme Court decision still stands) another indyref in Scotland would be the most depressing prospect for everyone (except maybe the 1000 indynuts who showed up in George Square).