Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

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Leithen

10,988 posts

268 months

Monday 29th April
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gruffalo said:
Skyedriver said:
Why not scrap the Scottish Parliament and repurpose the building for the homeless, select a special wing to use for drug abuse rehab, Scotland having one of the highest drug related problems in Europe. Save us a hell of a lot of MSP wages.
I cannot fault this thinking, it would be the best thing for Scotland and the UK as a whole to scrap the politics of division experiment.
Next you are going to tell me that be represented by, and paying for, a Westminster MP, a Scottish Parliament Constituency MSP, Seven Scottish Parliament List MSPs and Three Local Councillors, is not good value and a waste of my tax!

The country was much worse off when we had a single MP and single local councillor rather than 12 people I don't recall voting for wasn't it?

irc

7,376 posts

137 months

Monday 29th April
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Some within the SNP are apparently saying Humza is gone because us Scots are racists.


donkmeister

8,256 posts

101 months

Monday 29th April
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gruffalo said:
Skyedriver said:
Why not scrap the Scottish Parliament and repurpose the building for the homeless, select a special wing to use for drug abuse rehab, Scotland having one of the highest drug related problems in Europe. Save us a hell of a lot of MSP wages.
I cannot fault this thinking, it would be the best thing for Scotland and the UK as a whole to scrap the politics of division experiment.
I'd be up for that, with a few provisos:

1) all the good stuff to be moved to somewhere more central unless London can sort out their problems with parking and traffic (maybe finish off the motorway plans of the interwar and post-war eras?)

2) I doubt the Scots would be happy to accept a reduction in services, so instead bring up the standard across the country to what Kranky managed to secure funding from Westminster for.

3) people who say "I'm not British, I'm English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish/Cornish/Yorkshire" should be encouraged to carry on saying that. It's a really handy way of spotting absolute bell-ends (often, they also think they deserve credit for what someone did before they were even born)

donkmeister

8,256 posts

101 months

Monday 29th April
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irc said:
Some within the SNP are apparently saying Humza is gone because us Scots are racists.

Nationalism and racism? Those two things never go together tongue out

Evercross

6,052 posts

65 months

Monday 29th April
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irc said:
Some within the SNP are apparently saying Humza is gone because us Scots are racists.
That was inevitable. It's bks of course, but just part of how society is currently being conditioned.

hidetheelephants

24,655 posts

194 months

Monday 29th April
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irc said:
Some within the SNP are apparently saying Humza is gone because us Scots are racists.

He was st, but he was st because of nasty racists?

A.J.M

7,938 posts

187 months

Monday 29th April
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Ah yes, we are so racist we got a brown man to the very top political position in Scotland.

Then got rid of him because we suddenly remembered we are all racist and hate brown people.

What a fking helmet of a person.
The racism card is so overplayed it’s no longer effective.

irc

7,376 posts

137 months

Monday 29th April
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cuprabob

14,729 posts

215 months

Monday 29th April
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irc said:
rofl

irc

7,376 posts

137 months

Monday 29th April
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What a day to be working 8pm to 2am! My dram will be much delayed.

Klippie

3,187 posts

146 months

Monday 29th April
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I saw the news at lunch time...I can't put into words how happy I am this man is no longer going to effect our daily lives.

The best quote of the day I read was I think from the BBC..."Humza put his best foot forward then proceded to shoot himself in the foot"

And now that he's gone that'll be the Gaza money dried up too.

No one can feel sorry for him he was a puppet on Sturgeon's string, we will never know what he was promised by the cult leader but it must have been major to stand up and make a complete plonker of yourself every day.

All the anti-snp lad's at work all had big smiles today, I want the Cheshire cat grin though and that will come when Sturgeon et-al get their arses handed to them by the police.

Roll on Wednesday..!!!


chemistry

2,172 posts

110 months

Monday 29th April
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A.J.M said:
Ah yes, we are so racist we got a brown man to the very top political position in Scotland.

Then got rid of him because we suddenly remembered we are all racist and hate brown people.

What a fking helmet of a person.
The racism card is so overplayed it’s no longer effective.
This. It's pathetic; being brown doesn't absolve one of incompetence.

Se7enheaven

1,726 posts

165 months

Monday 29th April
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Not one ounce of sympathy do I have for that sack of st that threw in the towel today. Nor do I have a warm fuzzy feeling about any of his fellow Cohorts in that utter shambles of a building.
Moving forward I don’t want my money being sent to Gaza , I don’t want my money being wasted on independence pipe dreams or the moronic ferry fiasco. I don’t want a new National Park , or some bullst gender reform ffs ! the list is endless. What I would like is for the country to get fixed fair and square but I think that is going to be very unlikely and a very very long way off

jtremlett

1,380 posts

223 months

Monday 29th April
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Se7enheaven said:
Not one ounce of sympathy do I have for that sack of st that threw in the towel today. Nor do I have a warm fuzzy feeling about any of his fellow Cohorts in that utter shambles of a building.
Moving forward I don’t want my money being sent to Gaza , I don’t want my money being wasted on independence pipe dreams or the moronic ferry fiasco. I don’t want a new National Park , or some bullst gender reform ffs ! the list is endless. What I would like is for the country to get fixed fair and square but I think that is going to be very unlikely and a very very long way off
Isn't it extraordinary how governments at any level, local or national, always seem to find time and money to spend (waste) on things like that whilst, in the same breath, saying there isn't enough money for the basic things that the majority of people really want and care about?

Skyedriver

17,947 posts

283 months

Monday 29th April
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jtremlett said:
Se7enheaven said:
Not one ounce of sympathy do I have for that sack of st that threw in the towel today. Nor do I have a warm fuzzy feeling about any of his fellow Cohorts in that utter shambles of a building.
Moving forward I don’t want my money being sent to Gaza , I don’t want my money being wasted on independence pipe dreams or the moronic ferry fiasco. I don’t want a new National Park , or some bullst gender reform ffs ! the list is endless. What I would like is for the country to get fixed fair and square but I think that is going to be very unlikely and a very very long way off
Isn't it extraordinary how governments at any level, local or national, always seem to find time and money to spend (waste) on things like that whilst, in the same breath, saying there isn't enough money for the basic things that the majority of people really want and care about?
^^this^^ - all of it. It's easy to spend money on these idiotic ideas , just put up taxes!
Living west coast, the ferry fiasco is unbelievable - totally miss managed. And the National Park idea. No one around here wants it. Make it more difficult to do your own business, create car parks to charge people to get in more money to pay Chief officers huge wages and a totally new layer of beaurocracy.
The roads around here are just a series of pot holes joining together. The NHS is in a state. Drugs problems running at an all time high.

Ridgemont

6,609 posts

132 months

Monday 29th April
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Some absolutely spot on observations from Effie Deans

https://www.effiedeans.com/2024/04/send-in-clowns....

alangla

4,866 posts

182 months

Monday 29th April
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On a totally different note, does anyone know if Calmac have binned their hopscotch tickets for this year? Looking at their website there’s some multi island itineraries but it suggests you need to piece them together from individual bookings on the online ticketing system and you don’t appear to get a discount. Searching shows some pages in German that mention them but I can’t find anything in English (or Gaelic…)

NRS

22,242 posts

202 months

Monday 29th April
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Evercross said:
That's an argument for a completely different thread.

Suffice to say though that if the SNP Scottish government wasn't determined to import necessary natural resources rather than using the stuff already here and piss up the wall decades of wealth already earned then we might not be faced with the above scenario (or at least not so severe)

Blaming 'the boomers' for tax increases is the current on message st from the shills of the left to excuse more tax and spend. Next they'll be suggesting we should cull some of them to ease the burden.

Oh, wait....

Edited by Evercross on Monday 29th April 16:50
It is for another thread, but it’s a real thing, not blaming the boomers but it’s a big impact on public spending given less income and more outgoing. The same will happen elsewhere, for example China but just a different generation to the boomers (maybe Millenials there?).

But I agree, SNP have made things worse, and try and escape any blame for their idiotic decisions with blaming Thatcher and so on.

Vanden Saab said:
Evercross said:
"Hope Forbes and Regan won't be in the running".

rofl

Muppet!

ETA. I see Rev Stu has (eventually) come to the same conclusion I did within seconds of Humza saying he was staying on rather than stepping aside for an interim leader.

I am seriously starting to think we are being watched.

Edited by Evercross on Monday 29th April 14:02
The tories decision to go after useless rather than the SNP party is looking more politically astute by the minute.
Interesting enough is it also a Conservative own goal? They’re likely to lost seats due to the mess down south, and if they damage the SNP and get more votes for Labout in Scotland at the next election due to damaging the SNP it might be worse for them in the General Election?

Still good to damage the SNP!

Mr Penguin

1,292 posts

40 months

Monday 29th April
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“Last week I stood here and ended the Bute House agreement, which was the right decision for the country,” he said. A barrister friend once told me that Scottish schools dominate national debating tournaments because an articulate Scottish accent is uniquely persuasive. You could hardly want for a more vivid demonstration of such a thing than to watch Scotland’s first minister calmly, softly and reasonably articulating how he was having to resign for no real reason beyond having done something quite mesmerisingly stupid but hoped no one would really notice.

...

This is a statement that is very hard to interrogate, when it’s put as reasonably as this. Had he really “underestimated” how much it would upset the Greens, when he ended their governing partnership and sacked them all from the cabinet? How was he expecting them to respond? We shall never quite know.

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All of his SNP friends and allies alighted on the same words. He was a “good man”, a “decent man”. In the sense that he is now the first former SNP first minister never to have been arrested on extremely serious criminal charges, this is factually accurate.

alangla

4,866 posts

182 months

Monday 29th April
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Mr Penguin said:
He was a “good man”, a “decent man”. In the sense that he is now the first former SNP first minister never to have been arrested on extremely serious criminal charges, this is factually accurate.
Though it still surprises me that he not only kept his job as transport secretary after being convicted of driving without insurance but was promoted to justice secretary! I can’t imagine that happening at Westminster.