Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
alangla said:
On a totally different note, does anyone know if Calmac have binned their hopscotch tickets for this year? Looking at their website there’s some multi island itineraries but it suggests you need to piece them together from individual bookings on the online ticketing system and you don’t appear to get a discount. Searching shows some pages in German that mention them but I can’t find anything in English (or Gaelic…)
It wouldnt suprise me if they are not doing any multi tickets as they cant guaruntee what ships will be on what routes at what time. Mr Penguin said:
“Last week I stood here and ended the Bute House agreement, which was the right decision for the country,” he said. A barrister friend once told me that Scottish schools dominate national debating tournaments because an articulate Scottish accent is uniquely persuasive. You could hardly want for a more vivid demonstration of such a thing than to watch Scotland’s first minister calmly, softly and reasonably articulating how he was having to resign for no real reason beyond having done something quite mesmerisingly stupid but hoped no one would really notice.
This is a statement that is very hard to interrogate, when it’s put as reasonably as this. Had he really “underestimated” how much it would upset the Greens, when he ended their governing partnership and sacked them all from the cabinet? How was he expecting them to respond? We shall never quite know.
All of his SNP friends and allies alighted on the same words. He was a “good man”, a “decent man”. In the sense that he is now the first former SNP first minister never to have been arrested on extremely serious criminal charges, this is factually accurate.
He's a good example of the mediocre failing upward off the back of an expensive education and an inflated sense of entitlement.This is a statement that is very hard to interrogate, when it’s put as reasonably as this. Had he really “underestimated” how much it would upset the Greens, when he ended their governing partnership and sacked them all from the cabinet? How was he expecting them to respond? We shall never quite know.
All of his SNP friends and allies alighted on the same words. He was a “good man”, a “decent man”. In the sense that he is now the first former SNP first minister never to have been arrested on extremely serious criminal charges, this is factually accurate.
sherman said:
alangla said:
On a totally different note, does anyone know if Calmac have binned their hopscotch tickets for this year? Looking at their website there’s some multi island itineraries but it suggests you need to piece them together from individual bookings on the online ticketing system and you don’t appear to get a discount. Searching shows some pages in German that mention them but I can’t find anything in English (or Gaelic…)
It wouldnt suprise me if they are not doing any multi tickets as they cant guaruntee what ships will be on what routes at what time. alangla said:
Mr Penguin said:
He was a “good man”, a “decent man”. In the sense that he is now the first former SNP first minister never to have been arrested on extremely serious criminal charges, this is factually accurate.
Though it still surprises me that he not only kept his job as transport secretary after being convicted of driving without insurance but was promoted to justice secretary! I can’t imagine that happening at Westminster.So whats the consensus for the VONC in the government on Wednesday, will the SNP loose or will they manage to hang on for the time being.
Those marginal SNP MSP's will be s
tting bricks at the thought of a Scottish election as they know only too well their jacket is on a shoogly peg so will vote with the government to prolong their nose being kept in the trough.
Those marginal SNP MSP's will be s
tting bricks at the thought of a Scottish election as they know only too well their jacket is on a shoogly peg so will vote with the government to prolong their nose being kept in the trough.Klippie said:
So whats the consensus for the VONC in the government on Wednesday, will the SNP loose or will they manage to hang on for the time being.
Those marginal SNP MSP's will be stting bricks at the thought of a Scottish election as they know only too well their jacket is on a shoogly peg so will vote with the government to prolong their nose being kept in the trough.
Survive. Too many piggies and idealists who really still believe they’re almost at the Scottish dreamland of milk and honey. There’s enough nutters who are willing to overlook anything in the aim of independence - that doesn’t just apply to the faithful but to a lot of the leaders too. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Alba and the SNP try and work out something together. It’ll just depend who has more power, Wee Nippie or big Alec. Those marginal SNP MSP's will be s
tting bricks at the thought of a Scottish election as they know only too well their jacket is on a shoogly peg so will vote with the government to prolong their nose being kept in the trough.NRS said:
There’s enough nutters who are willing to overlook anything in the aim of independence - that doesn’t just apply to the faithful but to a lot of the leaders too.
Absolutely this. It's a cult. Where else would there be absolutely no leaks about a leader who liked a sleepy cuddle with female staffers? Wheesht for indy.
irc said:
NRS said:
There’s enough nutters who are willing to overlook anything in the aim of independence - that doesn’t just apply to the faithful but to a lot of the leaders too.
Absolutely this. It's a cult. Where else would there be absolutely no leaks about a leader who liked a sleepy cuddle with female staffers? Wheesht for indy.
Ladies A to H should be nervous about a new non-Sturgeon appointed First Minister. That new broom might just sweep them into public view.
Have we done the amazing similar "white" rant Anas Sarwar had back in 2020.
I saw a YouTube clip and thought it was so similar to Humzas that it might be an AI fake.
https://www.offtopicscotland.com/post/goes-around-...
So I searched the parliamentary record. There it was. In context it was during a debate on racism. That doesn't, in my view, excuse complaining that senior members of organisations in a overwhelmingly white country are white. Especially as they will have started their careers 25 or 30 years earlier when the BAME population was far smaller than today. In both cases as they became leaders of their respective parties it can't be that racist a country.
https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees...
I saw a YouTube clip and thought it was so similar to Humzas that it might be an AI fake.
https://www.offtopicscotland.com/post/goes-around-...
So I searched the parliamentary record. There it was. In context it was during a debate on racism. That doesn't, in my view, excuse complaining that senior members of organisations in a overwhelmingly white country are white. Especially as they will have started their careers 25 or 30 years earlier when the BAME population was far smaller than today. In both cases as they became leaders of their respective parties it can't be that racist a country.
https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees...
Edited by irc on Tuesday 30th April 02:40
Roderick Spode said:
If an alternative non-Sturgeon acolyte is appointed, or better yet an election is called and another party is elected, there's an outside chance that we, the public, might finally get to officially know the truth about Sturgeon's cronies in the ladies of letters. I care not a jot for Salmond, but I do care passionately about justice and the proper course of law. Sturgeon tried to stitch up and jail her predecessor under false pretences - I'm not saying Mr Jowls wasn't prone to the occasional overly familiar fraternising with the female staff, but I don't believe he's complicit in all that was alleged against him. One day the truth will out - Yousless the continuity moron kept the lid on it all, Swindley will do the same. It needs a new broom, with no allegiance to Nippy, like Forbes to come in and expose all that has been carefully hidden and suppressed from public scrutiny.
Ladies A to H should be nervous about a new non-Sturgeon appointed First Minister. That new broom might just sweep them into public view.
Well as per Effie I suspect that is why the history of the last few days played out.Ladies A to H should be nervous about a new non-Sturgeon appointed First Minister. That new broom might just sweep them into public view.
As she noted after exploring options with Cuddly Al from Useless resulted in a very early call from Nippy stating unequivocally that there was no deal to be had there.
Which killed his chances stone dead.
Which raises numerous questions, not least:
1) why would Nippy be so keen to prevent a salmondite back in the play pen. Which triggers his resignation literally hours after he said it was an option. Was the alphabetti spaghetti just about to be revealed?
2) who was actually running the SNP and the ScoGov for the last year? Because it appears it wasn’t Yousaf.
3) if Stephen Flynn was genuinely the source of the kiboshing of the BHA it appears there is a rogue non Nippy branch of the SNP down in Westminster.
4) it’s all a bit much
Can we ever really be rid of Sturgeon? Is there phones in Corntonvale? Can we in the meantime arrange book signings in faraway countries. I know her memoir isn't published yet but don't forget there was that book of her speeches published. There must be a demand for the outstanding poitician of her generation to sign a few copies in Outer mongolia.
If you are quick you can get a copy at a 62% discount.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Women-Hold-Up-Half-Sky/dp...
It gets rave reviews.
"Speeches written by her army of SPADs and delivered to mostly overseas non entities. "
"What a load of tripe. Should be called "Big Book of Lies," or "Huh, what did I say?""
If you are quick you can get a copy at a 62% discount.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Women-Hold-Up-Half-Sky/dp...
It gets rave reviews.
"Speeches written by her army of SPADs and delivered to mostly overseas non entities. "
"What a load of tripe. Should be called "Big Book of Lies," or "Huh, what did I say?""
irc said:
On a similar note the Metro has a great headline
"You've only get Yousaf to blame"
Tango13 said:
After an evening of celebrating useless resigning how are the hangovers this morning? 
Head is as clear as a spring morning. I am not celebrating until the SNP is out of power. These are just steps along the way.As the dust settles, it does indeed look as if Tyremarks Swinney is being lined to take the hit for the SNP's inevitable General Election drubbing.
He should change his name to Boppo the Clown.
Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 30th April 09:26
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