Suella Braverman: ‘Islamists are in charge’

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Countdown said:

And it terms of stty/cheap, I hate to admit it but I would not want to live in a Council House unless I was desperate. The quality is "basic" to put it mildy. They will usually have the cheapest bathrooms, kitchens, doors and they will almost always be undecorated. On top of that they are usually located in less-than-salubrious areas.

I've known loads of people in council houses. If you can get one and keep one they're the best deal in the trainwreck that is our housing situation.

They all seemed solid and pleasant to me, but maybe it's because most of them were made several decades ago.

I expect a council house built to 'modern' standards may make a ripped up cardboard box look appealing.

[Colonel Cupcake]

captain_cynic said:

And I guarantee that this poster doesn't live in any of those places, not had his sister's arm ever been broken.

We've found the person who listens to the fog whistles.

In your own words, you haven't got a clue.

What's a fog whistle?

I know 'dog whistle' is the latest in-word here but that is a new one on me.

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reddiesel said:

Firstly Housing . Local Authorities and Housing Associations give priority to these Immigrants , that’s why so many are already in Housing . This Housing in my experience is neither stty nor cheap which is fundamentally different from the experience of the Ugandan Asians expelled by Amin . You need to get your facts right

"these immigrants"

"ugandan asians"

"council houses"

did you just teleport here from the 1970's? You do realise that the majority of migration to this country in the last 20 years has either been from Eastern Europe, or more recently from India?

[tangerine_sedge]

reddiesel said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13116881/...


Its true I am afraid . In 25 years we have become unrecognisable as have our Government and our Institutions . Perhaps its just an inherent fault of Democracy but to me it used to seem that every Minority and every Loudmouth had to have an opinion and a say even if that opinion is at odds with the majority . I suspect that's no longer the case , the question now is rapidly becoming who does that Majority comprise of ?

This is why she'll never be PM - she says the quiet bit out loud.

[Biker 1]

Living in rural south east England, I'm afraid I'm totally unfamiliar with all of this. Local village of 5000 has maybe 5 or 10 non-white people. There is no mosque & the only crimes appear to be smoking weed, speeding, minor fly tipping & the odd 'traveller' theft from farms & building sites.
All seems a bit rich coming from Braverman, the daughter of the dreaded immigrants!!!

[bitchstewie]

She'll never be PM but I could see her being leader of the opposition if/when they lose the election and go full tonto trying to work out what happened.

[Biker 1]

Interestingly my local MP is Nus Ghani - as a Muslim, I wonder what she makes of Braverman's st stirring?

[DanL]

tangerine_sedge said:

reddiesel said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13116881/...


Its true I am afraid . In 25 years we have become unrecognisable as have our Government and our Institutions . Perhaps its just an inherent fault of Democracy but to me it used to seem that every Minority and every Loudmouth had to have an opinion and a say even if that opinion is at odds with the majority . I suspect that's no longer the case , the question now is rapidly becoming who does that Majority comprise of ?

This is why she'll never be PM - she says the quiet bit out loud.

She’ll never be PM because she’s trying to appeal to racists while being brown. She’s a fking idiot.

[Slowboathome]

Biker 1 said:

Interestingly my local MP is Nus Ghani - as a Muslim, I wonder what she makes of Braverman's st stirring?

She has a history of associating with The Wrong Kind Of People.

She's also a pro-Brexit Tory.

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stuckmojo said:

Sporky said:

I believe it was a sarcastic mocking of the post it quoted.

I deserve a whoosh parrot.

It was indeed intended sarcastically, but it is also concerning just how many people seem to be completely oblivious of the number of immigrants who came here, as you said, as citizens (and British citizens of the Empire, with British passports) and at the request of the country that they very much perceived as the mother country. They came fully intending to integrate, and were often met with outright racist hostility.

That's not something you can easily move away from in just a generation or two, and all the more so when those subsequent generations grow up in the same communities their ancestors were largely corralled into.

It's strange if you think about it. Nobody thinks twice about successive generations of white British people choosing to bring up their families in the area that they were born in, but as soon as immigrants do the same, they're "refusing to integrate".

[Kermit power]

reddiesel said:

We are getting a lot of retired early middle class turnips on here , doubtlessly anti brexit and anti conservative . This is why they can sit here all day and ping away their Guardianista Views till their hearts content
Firstly Housing . Local Authorities and Housing Associations give priority to these Immigrants , that’s why so many are already in Housing . This Housing in my experience is neither stty nor cheap which is fundamentally different from the experience of the Ugandan Asians expelled by Amin . You need to get your facts right

Aw, bless! Maybe when I retire I'll have time to help you out by getting together some actual local authority housing policies for you so that you don't have to take Britain First's word for it!

As for being anti-Brexit, yes, of course I am. Anyone with half an ounce of economic sense in their brain is!

I also voted Conservative in every election I'd been entitled to vote in before 2019. At that point I gave up on them as they've allowed themselves to get into a position of pushing through the catastrophic left-wing economic policy that is Brexit (and if you're not clear on the history of which side of the economic spectrum traditionally goes for the notion of limiting immigration to protect the working class man's salary, it's not that tricky to figure out, even though it no longer works in an unavoidably global economy) because their social policy agenda has been hijacked by bigots with whom I feel absolutely nothing in common.

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Dog Star said:

Any of the people posting on here thinking it’s all a load of Daily Mail dog whistle/racism etc live in Bradford/Rochdale/Luton etc etc?

Thought not.

Anyone on here had their sister in hospital with a broken arm for telling a gang of Muslim lads to “f-k off” for making lewd remarks “show us your tits white bh” etc. Police did nothing (mind you they were ignoring the grooming too, so no surprise).

Thought not.

You lot haven’t got a clue.

Are you sure she wasn’t annoying a swan?

[fizz47]

So it’s an anti-Semitic trope to imply that Jews are in charge of Britiain but when that same trope is levelled at Muslims then it’s seemingly acceptable?

If there is any truth to her statements then would love to see her evidence .. her article seems to be aimed at a certain type…

[Biker 1]

fizz47 said:

So it’s an anti-Semitic trope to imply that Jews are in charge of Britiain but when that same trope is levelled at Muslims then it’s seemingly acceptable?

If there is any truth to her statements then would love to see her evidence .. her article seems to be aimed at a certain type…

That's actually a good take on it. Not only that, we have a Hindu as the most powerful bloke in Britain.
Seriously, who cares? My ancestors are bloodthirsty Norsemen - maybe we're in charge of Britain?

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fizz47 said:

So it’s an anti-Semitic trope to imply that Jews are in charge of Britiain but when that same trope is levelled at Muslims then it’s seemingly acceptable?

If there is any truth to her statements then would love to see her evidence .. her article seems to be aimed at a certain type…

You have to remember that antisemitism is a cancer but it's different when Muslims are on the receiving end of tropes and stereotypes.

Just don't ask why it's different.

[Slowboathome]

bhstewie said:

fizz47 said:

So it’s an anti-Semitic trope to imply that Jews are in charge of Britiain but when that same trope is levelled at Muslims then it’s seemingly acceptable?

If there is any truth to her statements then would love to see her evidence .. her article seems to be aimed at a certain type…

You have to remember that antisemitism is a cancer but it's different when Muslims are on the receiving end of tropes and stereotypes.

Just don't ask why it's different.

ghastly people.

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bhstewie said:

fizz47 said:

So it’s an anti-Semitic trope to imply that Jews are in charge of Britiain but when that same trope is levelled at Muslims then it’s seemingly acceptable?

If there is any truth to her statements then would love to see her evidence .. her article seems to be aimed at a certain type…

You have to remember that antisemitism is a cancer but it's different when Muslims are on the receiving end of tropes and stereotypes.

Just don't ask why it's different.

Perhaps something to do with the fact that one is considered the world's oldest prejudice and directly lead to the single most horrific event in human history, whereas the other was a term coined by a think tank in the mid 90's to describe concerns about a belief system with the habit of violence against those who mock it.

[Biker 1]

It's pretty annoying for us atheists all this posturing.

[Slowboathome]

Biker 1 said:

It's pretty annoying for us atheists all this posturing.

And the bombing. That's pretty irritating too.

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CT05 Nose Cone said:

bhstewie said:

fizz47 said:

So it’s an anti-Semitic trope to imply that Jews are in charge of Britiain but when that same trope is levelled at Muslims then it’s seemingly acceptable?

If there is any truth to her statements then would love to see her evidence .. her article seems to be aimed at a certain type…

You have to remember that antisemitism is a cancer but it's different when Muslims are on the receiving end of tropes and stereotypes.

Just don't ask why it's different.

Perhaps something to do with the fact that one is considered the world's oldest prejudice and directly lead to the single most horrific event in human history, whereas the other was a term coined by a think tank in the mid 90's to describe concerns about a belief system with the habit of violence against those who mock it.

So the age of the prejudice is the important thing?

In the second case are you talking about the Vikings, or the Crusaders?