Angela Rayner to face investigation?

[ZedLeg]

In 2007, 7 years before she was elected.

[BigMon]

Tankrizzo said:

86 out of the Tufton blocks early this morning I see.

Just need an 'uh oh' follow up from the other Tufton shill and we can rest easy.

[Oakey]

ZedLeg said:

In 2007, 7 years before she was elected.

What does that matter? She was a trade unionist before then, wasn't she? She still held the same Labour values at the time, didn't she? At best your comment just demonstrates she's pulling the ladder up behind her. Of course, she's back pedalling now saying that Right to Buy was never a problem, it was that "the Tories never built any more council housing stock"

[ZedLeg]

Oakey said:

ZedLeg said:

In 2007, 7 years before she was elected.

What does that matter? She was a trade unionist before then, wasn't she? She still held the same Labour values at the time, didn't she? At best your comment just demonstrates she's pulling the ladder up behind her. Of course, she's back pedalling now saying that Right to Buy was never a problem, it was that "the Tories never built any more council housing stock"

Meh, I'm not going to tear into a young mother working for secure housing for their family. That's what we all should be doing, no?

[86]

Expect Starmer won’t mind this. She’s a thorn in his side

[pavarotti1980]

86 said:

This could be an interesting story if true

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13124595/...

Both parties are going to be digging the dirt pre an election. Could turn nasty

Oh what a shock. Rampant rabid Tory posting more ste about the opposition parties

Certain sense of irony in the current shambolic government complaining about someone taking advantage of one their own previous idiotic policies

[Deesee]

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

[Rivenink]

Oakey said:

Surely the bigger issue is exercising her Right to Buy? Doesn't that make a mockery of Labour's stance on social housing and Thatcher's policies?

Someone will be along to say "hate the game, not the player" or something but it's taking the piss a bit, isn't it?

Sky said:

The party's deputy leader and shadow levelling up secretary insisted she was not "ashamed" to have bought her council house at a discounted rate in 2007 under the late former prime minister's right-to-buy scheme - despite wanting to review it if her party gets into power at the next election.

Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions about such a review would suggest.


Right to buy could be a very effective route to homeowership for the millions of people under 40 who are forced to rent at extortionate rates because they can't save up a deposit to buy faster than house prices rise.

Of course, it requires that councils build homes with the funds they get from selling through Right to Buy.

[ZedLeg]

Indeed, the problem was never letting people keep their homes, it was that the housing stock was never replenished.

[rscott]

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Right to buy discount needs to be repaid if sold within 5 years of purchase and nothing in the rules to say the owner has to live there all the time anyway, so why would she have to repay it?

[Rufus Stone]

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Could be a couple of issues.

In order to retain the RTB discount you are required to reside in the house for the subsequent 5 years.

You are supposed to register to vote using the address at which you live.

Ultimately though, it's all another 'gotcha' campaign. Sad.

[119]

Rufus Stone said:

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Could be a couple of issues.

In order to retain the RTB discount you are required to reside in the house for the subsequent 5 years.

You are supposed to register to vote using the address at which you live.

Ultimately though, it's all another 'gotcha' campaign. Sad.

Gotcha?

If proven, she 'abused' the system.

And labour are supposedly trying to prove how electable they are, and for people to trust them over the current shower.

[Rufus Stone]

119 said:

Gotcha?

If proven, she 'abused' the system.

And labour are supposedly trying to prove how electable they are, and for people to trust them over the current shower.

Is this really how you wish politics to be undertaken though? I find it all rather distasteful.

[Deesee]

rscott said:

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Right to buy discount needs to be repaid if sold within 5 years of purchase and nothing in the rules to say the owner has to live there all the time anyway, so why would she have to repay it?

Well she moved out in 2010, which is within the 5 yrs of purchase, is there a condition that you must live there as your 'main residence' for 5 years? If the property is tenanted surely it is 'disposed' and discount should be returned.

If she has followed the rules nothing has been done wrong?

[rscott]

119 said:

Rufus Stone said:

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Could be a couple of issues.

In order to retain the RTB discount you are required to reside in the house for the subsequent 5 years.

You are supposed to register to vote using the address at which you live.

Ultimately though, it's all another 'gotcha' campaign. Sad.

Gotcha?

If proven, she 'abused' the system.

And labour are supposedly trying to prove how electable they are, and for people to trust them over the current shower.

Can't find anything on any .gov.uk website confirming you need to live there for at least 5 years, only that you have to repay some of the discount if you sell within 5 years.

[Electro1980]

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Given that it is over 7 years ago it would be down to someone to prove those were not done, as there would be no reason for her to retain the evidence.

This seems to be a case of trying to make political capital out of those who are ready to believe anything that confirms their views.

There’s no allegation of not paying tax, and the “rules” people are claiming she has broken don’t appear to even exist…

[Deesee]

119 said:

Rufus Stone said:

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Could be a couple of issues.

In order to retain the RTB discount you are required to reside in the house for the subsequent 5 years.

You are supposed to register to vote using the address at which you live.

Ultimately though, it's all another 'gotcha' campaign. Sad.

Gotcha?

If proven, she 'abused' the system.

And labour are supposedly trying to prove how electable they are, and for people to trust them over the current shower.

You've potentially got none declared tax and mortgage shadiness, from a public figure..

MP'S are turning out all the same.

If she's done it correctly and throughly, nothing to worry about, however at the time was she not a council employee and high flying trade union leader? You could argue she should know better.

Running to be an MP from an incorrect address, or the correct address, someone will have a look back at the Labour application form from the 2015 Election.

[Deesee]

Electro1980 said:

Deesee said:

2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....

Given that it is over 7 years ago it would be down to someone to prove those were not done, as there would be no reason for her to retain the evidence.

This seems to be a case of trying to make political capital out of those who are ready to believe anything that confirms their views.

There’s no allegation of not paying tax, and the “rules” people are claiming she has broken don’t appear to even exist…

In this day and age, I can go on to any bank account/utility bill and produce documents as to where my residence was, electoral roll will show this too.

The article refers to a referral to the police, as I state if she has done it correctly there is nothing to hide/fear.

[Nomme de Plum]

Deesee said:

In this day and age, I can go on to any bank account/utility bill and produce documents as to where my residence was, electoral roll will show this too.

The article refers to a referral to the police, as I state if she has done it correctly there is nothing to hide/fear.

Not relevant for Rayner but one does not have to be on an electoral roll or have a bank account and many will not have utility accounts.

[Deesee]

Nomme de Plum said:

Deesee said:

In this day and age, I can go on to any bank account/utility bill and produce documents as to where my residence was, electoral roll will show this too.

The article refers to a referral to the police, as I state if she has done it correctly there is nothing to hide/fear.

Not relevant for Rayner but one does not have to be on an electoral roll or have a bank account and many will not have utility accounts.

Let us see where she was registered for council tax... as that is a requirement.... As a married person, or at her home as a single person.