Angela Rayner to face investigation?

Angela Rayner to face investigation?

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Biggy Stardust

6,885 posts

44 months

Monday 26th February
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There appear to be sufficient grounds to investigate further.

If she's innocent then no worries.
If she's been naughty then appropriate penalties should be levied.

Nomme de Plum

4,610 posts

16 months

Monday 26th February
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Deesee said:
Let us see where she was registered for council tax... as that is a requirement.... As a married person, or at her home as a single person.
That will depend how many homes she has. The property owner is ultimately liable for council tax in accordance with the hierarchy of liabilities.

Vanden Saab

14,091 posts

74 months

Monday 26th February
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Nomme de Plum said:
Deesee said:
In this day and age, I can go on to any bank account/utility bill and produce documents as to where my residence was, electoral roll will show this too.

The article refers to a referral to the police, as I state if she has done it correctly there is nothing to hide/fear.
Not relevant for Rayner but one does not have to be on an electoral roll or have a bank account and many will not have utility accounts.
If you have a mortgage I cannot imagine not needing all of those ..

bitchstewie

51,221 posts

210 months

Monday 26th February
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Super Sonic said:
Is she actually being investigated, or is it just some people are calling for her to be investigated?
From how I'm reading it it's the latter.

Like how Starmer is being referred to the Standards Committee over last week but when you look beyond the Express headlines all that's happened is an MP has written a letter to Harman.

If there's any sign of wrongdoing they should investigate and take the appropriate action.

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Monday 26th February
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bhstewie said:
Super Sonic said:
Is she actually being investigated, or is it just some people are calling for her to be investigated?
From how I'm reading it it's the latter.

Like how Starmer is being referred to the Standards Committee over last week but when you look beyond the Express headlines all that's happened is an MP has written a letter to Harman.

If there's any sign of wrongdoing they should investigate and take the appropriate action.
Tory MP James Daly has written to Greater Manchester Police, he may well have cc’d the letter to Harman as well.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/rayner-facing-...

bitchstewie

51,221 posts

210 months

Monday 26th February
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And that's fine.

It'll either go somewhere or it won't.

S600BSB

4,631 posts

106 months

Monday 26th February
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bhstewie said:
And that's fine.

It'll either go somewhere or it won't.
Indeed.

Oakey

27,572 posts

216 months

Monday 26th February
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Rivenink said:
Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions about such a review would suggest.


Right to buy could be a very effective route to homeowership for the millions of people under 40 who are forced to rent at extortionate rates because they can't save up a deposit to buy faster than house prices rise.

Of course, it requires that councils build homes with the funds they get from selling through Right to Buy.
Nothing wrong with the idea of Right to Buy. Their review would seek to reduce discounts

Electro1980

8,296 posts

139 months

Monday 26th February
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Deesee said:
Electro1980 said:
Deesee said:
2007 Purchased Property.

2010 Married, registered children to husbands address, stayed on electoral roll at own address, her brother moved to her address (reg on roll).

2015 Sold property.

So we are expecting to see here, permission from mortgage company for consent to let, rental from brother declared on tax returns, CGT declared in relevant tax year and relevant discount paid back to the council as she had not been living there.

Sold property in the year she was elected also, perhaps this was all pointed out to her by a gov official.

If's she's done the above should be no issue.....
Given that it is over 7 years ago it would be down to someone to prove those were not done, as there would be no reason for her to retain the evidence.

This seems to be a case of trying to make political capital out of those who are ready to believe anything that confirms their views.

There’s no allegation of not paying tax, and the “rules” people are claiming she has broken don’t appear to even exist…
In this day and age, I can go on to any bank account/utility bill and produce documents as to where my residence was, electoral roll will show this too.

The article refers to a referral to the police, as I state if she has done it correctly there is nothing to hide/fear.
What has that got to do with tax payments, or, frankly, very much?

Regardless, no, you can’t. Many won’t hold records longer than 7 years.

Biggy Stardust

6,885 posts

44 months

Monday 26th February
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Nomme de Plum said:
That will depend how many homes she has. The property owner is ultimately liable for council tax in accordance with the hierarchy of liabilities.
Not true. eg Tenants are higher on the hierarchy than their landlord.

Biggy Stardust

6,885 posts

44 months

Monday 26th February
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bhstewie said:
It'll either go somewhere or it won't.
This is one of the few instances where we agree. I only ask that the investigation be prompt, unbiased & thorough.

bitchstewie

51,221 posts

210 months

Monday 26th February
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Biggy Stardust said:
This is one of the few instances where we agree. I only ask that the investigation be prompt, unbiased & thorough.
I'm not asking for a slow drawn out biased and basic one either.

Let the Police and/or Parliamentary authorities do whatever they need to do.

cheesejunkie

2,587 posts

17 months

Monday 26th February
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Biggy Stardust said:
bhstewie said:
It'll either go somewhere or it won't.
This is one of the few instances where we agree. I only ask that the investigation be prompt, unbiased & thorough.
Indeed and agreed.

What is it about Rayner that gets some Tories so frothy?

I struggle to give a st about some headlines. The mail one included. But I'm all for scrutiny of our politicians. Not for trial by media.

Amateurish

7,739 posts

222 months

Monday 26th February
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The article is very poorly written. Am I to understand that the essence of the allegation of criminal activity is that she didn't update her address on the electoral register when she moved house?

Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?

bitchstewie

51,221 posts

210 months

Monday 26th February
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cheesejunkie said:
What is it about Rayner that gets some Tories so frothy?
Single mum who's improved her lot and she called them scum.

Catnip laugh

S600BSB

4,631 posts

106 months

Monday 26th February
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bhstewie said:
cheesejunkie said:
What is it about Rayner that gets some Tories so frothy?
Single mum who's improved her lot and she called them scum.

Catnip laugh
Difficult to argue with her based on recent experience..

paulrockliffe

15,707 posts

227 months

Monday 26th February
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Amateurish said:
Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?
Yes.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Monday 26th February
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paulrockliffe said:
Amateurish said:
Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?
Yes.
Is it?

paulrockliffe

15,707 posts

227 months

Monday 26th February
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ZedLeg said:
paulrockliffe said:
Amateurish said:
Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?
Yes.
Is it?
Yes.

Deesee

8,421 posts

83 months

Monday 26th February
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paulrockliffe said:
Amateurish said:
Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?
Yes.
It’s a sizeable problem if she’s voted..