Angela Rayner to face investigation?

[chrispmartha]

i4got said:

blueg33 said:

Time for some whataboutery

This week. - Esther McVey claims expenses to rent flat while husband lets out nearby home
‘Minister for common sense’ who has criticised Whitehall waste is said to have received £39,000 in two years

Nadhim Zahawi - no further comment needed

etc

I'm not sure listing other people who may also be crooked is quite the win you think it is.

I think he’s pointing out that those so bothered about Rayner don’t seem that fussed about those two.

[i4got]

chrispmartha said:

i4got said:

blueg33 said:

Time for some whataboutery

This week. - Esther McVey claims expenses to rent flat while husband lets out nearby home
‘Minister for common sense’ who has criticised Whitehall waste is said to have received £39,000 in two years

Nadhim Zahawi - no further comment needed

etc

I'm not sure listing other people who may also be crooked is quite the win you think it is.

I think he’s pointing out that those so bothered about Rayner don’t seem that fussed about those two.

The rules are;

If you're left wing then you set up google alerts looking for bad news stories about right wingers and start PH threads about it, and if you're right wing you only post bad news about left wingers. Repeat ad nauseam.

If you expect even handedness then maybe the internet is not the place for you.

[Evanivitch]

Earthdweller said:

I wouldn’t read too much into it

A complaint is made to the Police, they are duty bound to look into it but that far from means there will be an investigation/enquiry

Firstly they will look and see if any criminal offences they investigate appear to have been committed and then apply the public interest test to it

As it happens tax fraud is not a police matter it is normally investigated and prosecuted by HMRC, likewise benefit fraud is investigated by the benefits agency

So the Police saying nothing for us/we aren’t interested doesn’t mean there isn’t something there for a different agency

If anyone walked into any police station and said X is fiddling their tax or Y is fiddling their benefits they’d be told it’s nothing to do with the police and go tell the relevant authorities

I see, on the face of it, the Rayner case being no different

And yet...

Independent said:

I disclosed he was being investigated for tax fraud, not just by the HMRC – but that the National Crime Agency and the Serious Fraud Office were involved as well. The investigation by the NCA – often referred to as “Britain’s FBI” – was conducted by its International Corruption Unit.

[Hammersia]

bhstewie said:

Neidle said:

But now the story is out, it would be sensible for Ms

Rayner said:

I was a home care worker, you know, I didn't have an accountant. I had, as most people would: you put your house on the market, you get a legal conveyancing solicitor and you get an estate agent.

But since those allegations were put to me, I got expert tax advice to make sure that I hadn't done anything wrong.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the next Chancellor of the Exchequer

[valiant]

Hammersia said:

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the next Chancellor of the Exchequer

Isn’t that Rachel Reeves?

Rayner is deputy leader. Bit of a difference.

[bitchstewie]

Can't quote right.

Can't get the job right.

"But Rayner"

[blueg33]

chrispmartha said:

i4got said:

blueg33 said:

Time for some whataboutery

This week. - Esther McVey claims expenses to rent flat while husband lets out nearby home
‘Minister for common sense’ who has criticised Whitehall waste is said to have received £39,000 in two years

Nadhim Zahawi - no further comment needed

etc

I'm not sure listing other people who may also be crooked is quite the win you think it is.

I think he’s pointing out that those so bothered about Rayner don’t seem that fussed about those two.

You are correct.

Having seen lots of people on these forums head for whataboutery as a defence as soon as a Tory MP, PM, Minister, SPAD, gerbil, gammon etc has done something wrong, I thought it is what was expected.

[Hammersia]

bhstewie said:

Can't quote right.

Can't get the job right.

"But Rayner"

Deputy leader now means nothing when in government

Doubt Starmer will put plagiarist reeves in as chancellor

Edited by Hammersia on Saturday 23 March 14:33

[sugerbear]

blueg33 said:

chrispmartha said:

i4got said:

blueg33 said:

Time for some whataboutery

This week. - Esther McVey claims expenses to rent flat while husband lets out nearby home
‘Minister for common sense’ who has criticised Whitehall waste is said to have received £39,000 in two years

Nadhim Zahawi - no further comment needed

etc

I'm not sure listing other people who may also be crooked is quite the win you think it is.

I think he’s pointing out that those so bothered about Rayner don’t seem that fussed about those two.

You are correct.

Having seen lots of people on these forums head for whataboutery as a defence as soon as a Tory MP, PM, Minister, SPAD, gerbil, gammon etc has done something wrong, I thought it is what was expected.

It is not about Tory / Labour for me it is about who is in power and how they are using (abusing) that power.

[blueg33]

sugerbear said:

It is not about Tory / Labour for me it is about who is in power and how they are using (abusing) that power.

Yup.

[S600BSB]

Hammersia said:

bhstewie said:

Can't quote right.

Can't get the job right.

"But Rayner"

Deputy leader now means nothing when in government

Doubt Starmer will put plagiarist reeves in as chancellor

Edited by Hammersia on Saturday 23 March 14:33

Dear oh dear..

[bitchstewie]

29 pages of people losing their st suggests Deputy Leader means something.

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

29 pages of people losing their st suggests Deputy Leader means something.

Or is it the actions of one? Pugilist Presclot set a fine example. Horner can only dream of a situation where 'the office' says "it is a private matter" where, in a powerful male / junior female unequal power hierarchical 2-year affair, the office desk in a Deputy Leader's office is used to play hide the sausage. Angie will need to go some to beat that. The suspicion has to be that the only ass she's interested in is Starmer's, on a plate when she takes over.

[bitchstewie]

What the hell are you on about?

[Earthdweller]

And yet...

Independent said:

I disclosed he was being investigated for tax fraud, not just by the HMRC – but that the National Crime Agency and the Serious Fraud Office were involved as well. The investigation by the NCA – often referred to as “Britain’s FBI” – was conducted by its International Corruption Unit.

Who’s he ?

[bitchstewie]

Zahawi.

[Earthdweller]

bhstewie said:

Zahawi.

Oh ok

So that was for possibly putting the wrong address on an electoral form 15 years ago and maybe failing to pay a couple of grand in CGT to HRMC ?

[frisbee]

bhstewie said:

What the hell are you on about?

The Labour party have dropped politics to a new low by announcing that they will be sponsored by Red Bull and are appointing Cristian Horner as party principal.

[greygoose]

frisbee said:

bhstewie said:

What the hell are you on about?

The Labour party have dropped politics to a new low by announcing that they will be sponsored by Red Bull and are appointing Cristian Horner as party principal.

If the UK was as successful as their F1 team then I would be quite content.

[don'tbesilly]

The story that doesn’t want to go away:



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/27/an...