Angela Rayner to face investigation?

[ZedLeg]

paulrockliffe said:

ZedLeg said:

paulrockliffe said:

Amateurish said:

Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?

Yes.

Is it?

Yes.

Where is it covered in law? I already tried looking but all I could see was something about if you've actively lied about it.

[Nomme de Plum]

Vanden Saab said:

Nomme de Plum said:

Deesee said:

In this day and age, I can go on to any bank account/utility bill and produce documents as to where my residence was, electoral roll will show this too.

The article refers to a referral to the police, as I state if she has done it correctly there is nothing to hide/fear.

Not relevant for Rayner but one does not have to be on an electoral roll or have a bank account and many will not have utility accounts.

If you have a mortgage I cannot imagine not needing all of those ..

I don't and haven't had a a mortgage since I was in my mid 50s. It's not uncommon if a buyer started relatively young. Non home owners clearly won't.

Thats's not to say the rest applies as the vast majority will have some or all of those.

[Nomme de Plum]

ZedLeg said:

paulrockliffe said:

ZedLeg said:

paulrockliffe said:

Amateurish said:

Is it illegal to fail to update the electoral register when you move house?

Yes.

Is it?

Yes.

Where is it covered in law? I already tried looking but all I could see was something about if you've actively lied about it.

It isn't. There is no obligation to get the electoral register updated.

[Oakey]

ICO said:

The law makes it compulsory to provide information to an electoral registration officer for inclusion in the full register

Gov.uk said:

What happens if you do not register
You must register to vote if you’re asked to do so and you meet the conditions for registering, for example you’re 16 or over and you’re British or a national of an EU or Commonwealth country.

If you’re asked to register and do not, you could be fined.

[Nomme de Plum]

Oakey said:

ICO said:

The law makes it compulsory to provide information to an electoral registration officer for inclusion in the full register

Gov.uk said:

What happens if you do not register
You must register to vote if you’re asked to do so and you meet the conditions for registering, for example you’re 16 or over and you’re British or a national of an EU or Commonwealth country.

If you’re asked to register and do not, you could be fined.

That implies it is the Local Authorities that has to ask first.

[don'tbesilly]

Nomme de Plum said:

Oakey said:

ICO said:

The law makes it compulsory to provide information to an electoral registration officer for inclusion in the full register

Gov.uk said:

What happens if you do not register
You must register to vote if you’re asked to do so and you meet the conditions for registering, for example you’re 16 or over and you’re British or a national of an EU or Commonwealth country.

If you’re asked to register and do not, you could be fined.

That implies it is the Local Authorities that has to ask first.

I regularly get a letter from my local authority asking whether I'm registered and if the details contained within the letter about me are correct. If they are correct I need take no further action.

I believe it's an £80.00 fine if you don't register.

[Electro1980]

don'tbesilly said:

Nomme de Plum said:

Oakey said:

ICO said:

The law makes it compulsory to provide information to an electoral registration officer for inclusion in the full register

Gov.uk said:

What happens if you do not register
You must register to vote if you’re asked to do so and you meet the conditions for registering, for example you’re 16 or over and you’re British or a national of an EU or Commonwealth country.

If you’re asked to register and do not, you could be fined.

That implies it is the Local Authorities that has to ask first.

I regularly get a letter from my local authority asking whether I'm registered and if the details contained within the letter about me are correct. If they are correct I need take no further action.

I believe it's an £80.00 fine if you don't register.

That is only the case since 2015. Prior to that it was only an offence to provide false information.

[Nomme de Plum]

don'tbesilly said:

I regularly get a letter from my local authority asking whether I'm registered and if the details contained within the letter about me are correct. If they are correct I need take no further action.

I believe it's an £80.00 fine if you don't register.

It's annual where I am but it seems there is no obligation to inform them if one moves.

[ZedLeg]

Aye, as I said the law seems to say that if someone asks and you give false information it’s an offence but it’s not to just not update the roll.

[don'tbesilly]

It’s got some mileage left to run

https://order-order.com/2024/02/26/tories-reckon-r...

[President Merkin]

Guido

I wonder if he's sober today?

[ZedLeg]

It’s still looking like a fishing expedition tbh.

[bitchstewie]

S600BSB said:

bhstewie said:

cheesejunkie said:

What is it about Rayner that gets some Tories so frothy?

Single mum who's improved her lot and she called them scum.

Catnip

Difficult to argue with her based on recent experience..

Quite honestly I said at the time she should have apologised.

If she said it tomorrow I don't think I'd even blink.

[Seasonal Hero]

President Merkin said:

Guido

I wonder if he's sober today?

Perpetually thirsty drink-driver Paul Staines?

I doubt it.

[bitchstewie]

Interestingly Staines himself said he based Guido offshore because he felt UK libel laws were too oppressive.

[philv]

If there's nothing to it, then all good.

If there is and she's a tax dodging hate filled politician (tories are scum. Very classy), why would anyone want her or vote for her?
Except for those of similar bent.

[FiF]

Oakey said:

Nothing wrong with the idea of Right to Buy. Their review would seek to reduce discounts

I think the main thrust of the story is that the property was bought under the right to buy.

There's some side issues about who what where when as distraction to make stuff appear a bit shady. CBA nor care about that, it'll go somewhere or it won't.

However it appears next point made is that property was sold at some profit. Again so what?

Next point is Rayner has been railing against the Right to Buy, grrr Thatcher. Which is double standards and somewhat hypocritical admittedly.

Personally I really don't like Rayner but in general CBA about this, there's been a lot of water under the bridge and clearly a timed dirty smear.

Rats in a sack. Not in my name.

[gruffalo]

FiF said:

Oakey said:

Nothing wrong with the idea of Right to Buy. Their review would seek to reduce discounts

I think the main thrust of the story is that the property was bought under the right to buy.

There's some side issues about who what where when as distraction to make stuff appear a bit shady. CBA nor care about that, it'll go somewhere or it won't.

However it appears next point made is that property was sold at some profit. Again so what?

Next point is Rayner has been railing against the Right to Buy, grrr Thatcher. Which is double standards and somewhat hypocritical admittedly.

Personally I really don't like Rayner but in general CBA about this, there's been a lot of water under the bridge and clearly a timed dirty smear.

Rats in a sack. Not in my name.

I also believe that the property was purchased at a discount and then rented out and then sold at a profit. Was that profit declared to HMRC so CGT could be applied, if not that is tax evasion which is illegal. If she moved back into the house before selling it living there for over a year would negate the CGT question.

[i4got]

Seasonal Hero said:

President Merkin said:

Guido

I wonder if he's sober today?

Perpetually thirsty drink-driver Paul Staines?

I doubt it.

Do people not even try to disguise ad hominems any more?

[Seasonal Hero]

i4got said:

Do people not even try to disguise ad hominems any more?

Not an ad-hom when it's a fact.

Staines has four alcohol-related convictions [1] In 2002, Staines was banned from driving for 12 months for drink driving.[53] When he was convicted of the same offence six years later, he was asked in court by District Judge Timothy Stone whether he had an alcohol problem and replied: "Possibly." He was banned from driving for three years, as well as being given an 18-month supervision order and wearing an electronic tag for three months.[54][53]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Staines#Crimina...

HTH.