Angela Rayner to face investigation?
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She was on GMB just now, Susanna asked about her living arrangements and Rayner doubled down on her story;
"I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
"I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Portofino said:
Nomme de Plum said:
Angela Rayner is being interviewed at this very moment on R4.
Apparently It's her birthday too.
Yeah she was just on Good Morning tv & instantly deflected to ‘Don’t you want to wish me happy birthday?’ like a big moronic kid.Apparently It's her birthday too.
She has advised that anything the police or HMRC ask for will be supplied. She also said that she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs.
Seems fair.
Nomme de Plum said:
Portofino said:
Yeah she was just on Good Morning tv & instantly deflected to ‘Don’t you want to wish me happy birthday?’ like a big moronic kid.
Is everyone with whom you disagree a moronic kid?Strange term of phrase to use for anyone.
I would not expect any politician to kick off the dialogue about their birthday! Just demonstrates the low bar that defines politicians on all sides.
Oakey said:
She was on GMB just now, Susanna asked about her living arrangements and Rayner doubled down on her story;
"I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Not unusual when there are children pre-existing the marriage and both already have homes."I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Portofino said:
Er…Not disagreeing with anything there just stating what she did matey.
I would not expect any politician to kick off the dialogue about their birthday! Just demonstrates the low bar that defines politicians on all sides.
I would not expect any politician to kick off the dialogue about their birthday! Just demonstrates the low bar that defines politicians on all sides.
I would have expected the interviewer to start with Happy Birthday then move on.
I call that simple good manners.
Nomme de Plum said:
Well she's not deflecting on R4.
She has advised that anything the police or HMRC ask for will be supplied. She also said that she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs.
Seems fair.
You reap what you sow. She has advised that anything the police or HMRC ask for will be supplied. She also said that she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs.
Seems fair.
Here is Raynor demanding a Conservative MP should publish their tax return because they lived in a "tax haven", even though the reason they lived there was because her husband at the time was a financial regulator working on counter-fraud, anti-corruption, and anti-terrorist financing. Didn't stop Raynor trying to smear the Conservative candidate implying they were a tax evader.
Personally, I'd like to see some kind of agreement between the main parties where they avoid trying to mislead people by making political capital about of innocuous stories. But Raynor has done that very many times herself, so it's difficult to feel sorry for her when she gets the same treatment.
Why this matters though, isn't because of Raynor's "tax avoidance", which is truthfully a non-story, but the effect it has on the political system. Who in their right mind would want to became an MP with the type of mud-slinging they would be subjected to? It just means that the people who do mostly stand are the narcissists, or weirdos, or the career political types. But they say the people get the politicians they deserve, so I guess everyone must be happy.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1428427/An...
Oakey said:
She was on GMB just now, Susanna asked about her living arrangements and Rayner doubled down on her story;
"I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Are you some sort of curtain twitching christian fundamentalist? When did the government pass laws that forces married couples to live together? "I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Some people work away from home for long periods of time,, some people work overseas, some married couples live together and some don't, just because it doesn't confirm to your view of marriage doesn't mean it's illegal.
Evanivitch said:
Oakey said:
She was on GMB just now, Susanna asked about her living arrangements and Rayner doubled down on her story;
"I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Not unusual when there are children pre-existing the marriage and both already have homes."I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Oakey said:
Evanivitch said:
Oakey said:
She was on GMB just now, Susanna asked about her living arrangements and Rayner doubled down on her story;
"I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Not unusual when there are children pre-existing the marriage and both already have homes."I lived at my property. Sometimes I stayed at my husband's property because he had the kids a few nights a week"
Totally normal living arrangements for a married couple with kids.
Not all marriages have normal living arrangements. My dad for example when he remarried to his second wife, had his own flat and lived in it on and off whilst married. It does happen.
Oakey said:
Her and her husband had a child together in 2008 and married in 2010. We're expected to believe they lived apart until 2015 because she had one child from a previous relationship?
One child from previous, one child born at 23 weeks (!), and a brother with PTSD. The houses were separated by a mile, I don't see it as fundamentally impractical. People get married for different reasons at different times, it makes sweet f'all practical difference.EddieSteadyGo said:
Nomme de Plum said:
Well she's not deflecting on R4.
She has advised that anything the police or HMRC ask for will be supplied. She also said that she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs.
Seems fair.
You reap what you sow. She has advised that anything the police or HMRC ask for will be supplied. She also said that she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs.
Seems fair.
Here is Raynor demanding a Conservative MP should publish their tax return because they lived in a "tax haven", even though the reason they lived there was because her husband at the time was a financial regulator working on counter-fraud, anti-corruption, and anti-terrorist financing. Didn't stop Raynor trying to smear the Conservative candidate implying they were a tax evader.
Personally, I'd like to see some kind of agreement between the main parties where they avoid trying to mislead people by making political capital about of innocuous stories. But Raynor has done that very many times herself, so it's difficult to feel sorry for her when she gets the same treatment.
Why this matters though, isn't because of Raynor's "tax avoidance", which is truthfully a non-story, but the effect it has on the political system. Who in their right mind would want to became an MP with the type of mud-slinging they would be subjected to? It just means that the people who do mostly stand are the narcissists, or weirdos, or the career political types. But they say the people get the politicians they deserve, so I guess everyone must be happy.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1428427/An...
blueg33 said:
It’s not the same scenario at all
It's exactly the same, in the context of both being non-stories, and yet when Rayner thinks it runs in her favour, she demands an MP publishes their tax returns, but when she gets questions she says, "she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs."EddieSteadyGo said:
blueg33 said:
It’s not the same scenario at all
It's exactly the same, in the context of both being non-stories, and yet when Rayner thinks it runs in her favour, she demands an MP publishes their tax returns, but when she gets questions she says, "she had no intention of publishing details of her personal finances publicly but would do so if it was mandated for all MPs."I am no fan of Rayner, but the clutching at straws that's going on in this thread is hilarious.
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