Angela Rayner to face investigation?
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EddieSteadyGo said:
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However, the fundamental problem is that our political system has became a soap opera, fuelled by the need to feed the 24-hour news cycle. Where is the (genuine) discussion about the best long term policies, evaluating the inevitable trade-offs, which will make our society more healthy, more happy and more wealthy over the coming decades? Instead the focus is on trivial tit-bits like this thread. And not just this thread, there are plenty of people more interested in clutching their pearls over total irrelevances in the Rishi Sunak (etc etc) threads too.
But is it a fundamental problem or simply a reflection of today's society and is what 'the people' want? If people really wanted discussion (genuine or otherwise) of policies and trade-offs, they would....er...actually be concerned about those things and elect people who reflected that desire rather than concentrate on petty point scoring on the 'other' side while self righteously expressing how virtuous they are compared to the 'bad' people who didn't agree with them..... The saying that we get the politicians we deserve rings pretty true tbh.However, the fundamental problem is that our political system has became a soap opera, fuelled by the need to feed the 24-hour news cycle. Where is the (genuine) discussion about the best long term policies, evaluating the inevitable trade-offs, which will make our society more healthy, more happy and more wealthy over the coming decades? Instead the focus is on trivial tit-bits like this thread. And not just this thread, there are plenty of people more interested in clutching their pearls over total irrelevances in the Rishi Sunak (etc etc) threads too.
Hammersia said:
I've probably said enough about AR already, but on the principle of MPs disclosing tax returns etc why the heck not.
There was another MP on the radio the other day refusing to talk about whether they would accept the latest MP payrise "it's private".
It's not. Its my money. There's an (inadequate) register of members interests.
If an MP (yes probably on average applies to more Tories than labour) has irregular / contrived tax arrangements we should be told.
Who else's tax returns do you want to see? Civil service? Soldiers? Nurses? Doctors?There was another MP on the radio the other day refusing to talk about whether they would accept the latest MP payrise "it's private".
It's not. Its my money. There's an (inadequate) register of members interests.
If an MP (yes probably on average applies to more Tories than labour) has irregular / contrived tax arrangements we should be told.
What do we gain from tax returns that we don't reasonably know from MPs declaring their interests?
This thread is all about events that occurred before this person was an MP...
isaldiri said:
But is it a fundamental problem or simply a reflection of today's society and is what 'the people' want? If people really wanted discussion (genuine or otherwise) of policies and trade-offs, they would....er...actually be concerned about those things and elect people who reflected that desire rather than concentrate on petty point scoring on the 'other' side while self righteously expressing how virtuous they are compared to the 'bad' people who didn't agree with them..... The saying that we get the politicians we deserve rings pretty true tbh.
Yes, I suppose I agree; the "24 news cycle" etc is just giving people what they want. Hence that itself should also be considered a symptom and not the cause.Evanivitch said:
Hammersia said:
I've probably said enough about AR already, but on the principle of MPs disclosing tax returns etc why the heck not.
There was another MP on the radio the other day refusing to talk about whether they would accept the latest MP payrise "it's private".
It's not. Its my money. There's an (inadequate) register of members interests.
If an MP (yes probably on average applies to more Tories than labour) has irregular / contrived tax arrangements we should be told.
Who else's tax returns do you want to see? Civil service? Soldiers? Nurses? Doctors?There was another MP on the radio the other day refusing to talk about whether they would accept the latest MP payrise "it's private".
It's not. Its my money. There's an (inadequate) register of members interests.
If an MP (yes probably on average applies to more Tories than labour) has irregular / contrived tax arrangements we should be told.
What do we gain from tax returns that we don't reasonably know from MPs declaring their interests?
This thread is all about events that occurred before this person was an MP...
Would she really do time for this though?
Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
don'tbesilly said:
CoolHands said:
Lammy’s backed her, so probably the kiss of death
Different rules apply to Politicians from the opposition apparently. paulrockliffe said:
don'tbesilly said:
CoolHands said:
Lammy’s backed her, so probably the kiss of death
Different rules apply to Politicians from the opposition apparently. 119 said:
Would she really do time for this though?
Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
Electoral fraud, is a bit of an issue..Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
Deesee said:
119 said:
Would she really do time for this though?
Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
Electoral fraud, is a bit of an issue..Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
turbobloke said:
Deesee said:
119 said:
Would she really do time for this though?
Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
Electoral fraud, is a bit of an issue..Seems a bit excessive imo however much I don’t particularly like her.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13280773/...
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