What Law IS Being Broken

[Carl_VivaEspana]

Getragdogleg said:

Rufus Stone said:

Someone who no doubt posts loads of videos of herself on the internet is upset someone else has posted a video of her too.

"TikTok influencer" no less.

[Sheets Tabuer]

JackJarvis said:

bhstewie said:

Let's see how many pages this turns into of men justifying some really fking creepy behaviour.

Bet you can't wait to pop back later with a "Jesus Christ".

[Randy Winkman]

768 said:

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Public space, public videography. Can't see much legally wrong with that. Not sure why the online comments are relevant if it's the videographer being called in, or vice versa.

Do you think there should be any limits on what people film? Children perhaps? If so, why?

I'm not sure what I think should be the case is relevant here. But I don't think there should be a law, certainly against any private individual, filming in public, even when there are children.

Sorry I wasnt clear - I dont mean filming near children, I mean actually filming children. I'm guessing there is already a law against that which is why I gave that as an example. I dont think you can point a camera at other people's children and film them and I assume that this new thing is intended to do something similar.

[Vanden Saab]

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Public space, public videography. Can't see much legally wrong with that. Not sure why the online comments are relevant if it's the videographer being called in, or vice versa.

Do you think there should be any limits on what people film? Children perhaps? If so, why?

I'm not sure what I think should be the case is relevant here. But I don't think there should be a law, certainly against any private individual, filming in public, even when there are children.

Sorry I wasnt clear - I dont mean filming near children, I mean actually filming children. I'm guessing there is already a law against that which is why I gave that as an example. I dont think you can point a camera at other people's children and film them and I assume that this new thing is intended to do something similar.

Nope, no law. If you are in a public place you can film anything you like as long as you do not harrass the people being filmed. How you use that film might get you into trouble though.

[Randy Winkman]

Vanden Saab said:

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Public space, public videography. Can't see much legally wrong with that. Not sure why the online comments are relevant if it's the videographer being called in, or vice versa.

Do you think there should be any limits on what people film? Children perhaps? If so, why?

I'm not sure what I think should be the case is relevant here. But I don't think there should be a law, certainly against any private individual, filming in public, even when there are children.

Sorry I wasnt clear - I dont mean filming near children, I mean actually filming children. I'm guessing there is already a law against that which is why I gave that as an example. I dont think you can point a camera at other people's children and film them and I assume that this new thing is intended to do something similar.

Nope, no law. If you are in a public place you can film anything you like as long as you do not harrass the people being filmed. How you use that film might get you into trouble though.

Fair enough - but if someone filmed other people's children I bet they would be asked to stop and the parent/guardian would possibly call the police and say they were being harassed.

[768]

Randy Winkman said:

Fair enough - but if someone filmed other people's children I bet they would be asked to stop and the parent/guardian would possibly call the police and say they were being harassed.

They might well do, but AIUI the law wouldn't be on their side. You can't harass someone on one occasion.

[Wills2]

The fact many of them are filmed whilst drunk and disorderly causing a public nuisance themselves seems to pass them and the police by.

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[Randy Winkman]

768 said:

Randy Winkman said:

Fair enough - but if someone filmed other people's children I bet they would be asked to stop and the parent/guardian would possibly call the police and say they were being harassed.

They might well do, but AIUI the law wouldn't be on their side. You can't harass someone on one occasion.

Cheers. I accept you clearly know more about the law than I do. In that case I guess I'm simply saying what might happen and what most people might think would be reasonable.

[s p a c e m a n]

'Being creepy is not a crime' should be printed on a t-shirt with a PH smiley underneath

[milkround]

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Randy Winkman said:

Fair enough - but if someone filmed other people's children I bet they would be asked to stop and the parent/guardian would possibly call the police and say they were being harassed.

They might well do, but AIUI the law wouldn't be on their side. You can't harass someone on one occasion.

Cheers. I accept you clearly know more about the law than I do. In that case I guess I'm simply saying what might happen and what most people might think would be reasonable.

B&Q videod my daughter today with multiple cameras. Then ASDA used hundreds of cameras to repeatedly video her. Ring doorbells recorded her when I was walking the dog... So if some random with a camera wants to video he can. If he tries to take advantage I certainly wouldn't be calling the police.

[Rufus Stone]

Sporky said:

I'm pointing out that there is a difference between monetising your own image, and someone else monetising your image without your consent.

Have you read a newspaper or watched the news recently, do you think every person photographed or filmed has given their consent?

[Oliver Hardy]

Vanden Saab said:

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Randy Winkman said:

768 said:

Public space, public videography. Can't see much legally wrong with that. Not sure why the online comments are relevant if it's the videographer being called in, or vice versa.

Do you think there should be any limits on what people film? Children perhaps? If so, why?

I'm not sure what I think should be the case is relevant here. But I don't think there should be a law, certainly against any private individual, filming in public, even when there are children.

Sorry I wasnt clear - I dont mean filming near children, I mean actually filming children. I'm guessing there is already a law against that which is why I gave that as an example. I dont think you can point a camera at other people's children and film them and I assume that this new thing is intended to do something similar.

Nope, no law. If you are in a public place you can film anything you like as long as you do not harrass the people being filmed. How you use that film might get you into trouble though.

According to the Blackbelt Barrister if your following someone around and photographing them you could end up with a harassment charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5d7TVNYUs

I think this type of video would be illegal in Germany, France, in Austria even dash cam filming is not allowed in Austria

"The use of dash cams in Austria is not permitted1. However, the Austrian ÖAMTC automobile club claims that this doesn’t apply to dashboard cameras, and you can use one,. But you mustn’t publish the footage, as any recording in which individuals or cars can be identified is illegal, and publishing it can result in a fine of up to EUR 10,000."

Edited by Oliver Hardy on Saturday 20th April 03:42

[JagLover]

untakenname said:

Don't see much difference between this and the 'ladies of Ascot' type pictures of drunk females in varying states of disrepair.

Think you mean "Ladies" of Aintree and I am not sure we have enough ".

An entertaining thread for less puritanical times and yes it was basically exactly the same thing. Pictures being posted up to either have a chuckle at or a perve over.

[James6112]

JagLover said:

untakenname said:

Don't see much difference between this and the 'ladies of Ascot' type pictures of drunk females in varying states of disrepair.

Think you mean "Ladies" of Aintree and I am not sure we have enough ".

An entertaining thread for less puritanical times and yes it was basically exactly the same thing. Pictures being posted up to either have a chuckle at or a perve over.

Rightly banned.
I’m sure you’d be a bit miffed if your wife/sister/granny were featured?

[Sporky]

Rufus Stone said:

Sporky said:

I'm pointing out that there is a difference between monetising your own image, and someone else monetising your image without your consent.

Have you read a newspaper or watched the news recently, do you think every person photographed or filmed has given their consent?

Is the question really the same when you remove the context like that?

[Rufus Stone]

Sporky said:

Is the question really the same when you remove the context like that?

What context do you think has been removed?

[Dagnir]

James6112 said:

Rightly banned.
I’m sure you’d be a bit miffed if your wife/sister/granny were featured?

Do you believe people have the right not to be criticised?

Or the right not to be talked about by others?

Is commentting on other people only allowed if its positive?


I can't understand why anyone would want to Iive in a world like that.

[Glasgowrob]

Interesting thought

Is it filmed covertly as the behaviour exhibited would escalate to a point it wouldn’t be allowed posted on Facebook due to being too lurid ?

Rock up with a professional camera and light rig and watch the reaction

Young people are generally well behaved
Young people with a camera in front of them will in a small number of occasions misbehave
Young people with a camera in front of them and a belly full of alcohol will in a lot of occasions misbehave.

[oyster]

Getragdogleg said:

Rufus Stone said:

Someone who no doubt posts loads of videos of herself on the internet is upset someone else has posted a video of her too.

"TikTok influencer" no less.

We’re getting there.

We just need ‘drunk’ and ‘scantily-clad’ and we could claim a prize.

[gotoPzero]

All common sense, decency and respect for oneself seems lost these days.