Injured horses running through London

[blueg33]

valiant said:

blueg33 said:

Petrus1983 said:

808 Estate said:

fiatpower said:

the horses bolted after "building materials were dropped from height right next to them"

To be fair, that would probably scare the crap out of most people or animals.

Apparently there were a lot of horses present at the time - absolutely ridiculous behaviour by the builders if true.

They may not have noticed the horses, especially if they were chucking stuff into a chute under a covered scaffold.

Surely the onus is on the handlers/riders of the horses to manage the risk, not on members of the public.?

First thing you learn in the building trade, always look around for horses before attempting anything.

Obvious when you think about it.

Thats an oversimplification when you have a chute that directs the material into a skip.

I also bet most people in London, even near the Palace stables don't "look around for horses". My office was next door and seeing horses on the street was the exception rather than the rule.

The Highway code requires riders to be able to control their horses Rule 52. It does not provide exceptions.

[Caddyshack]

blueg33 said:

valiant said:

blueg33 said:

Petrus1983 said:

808 Estate said:

fiatpower said:

the horses bolted after "building materials were dropped from height right next to them"

To be fair, that would probably scare the crap out of most people or animals.

Apparently there were a lot of horses present at the time - absolutely ridiculous behaviour by the builders if true.

They may not have noticed the horses, especially if they were chucking stuff into a chute under a covered scaffold.

Surely the onus is on the handlers/riders of the horses to manage the risk, not on members of the public.?

First thing you learn in the building trade, always look around for horses before attempting anything.

Obvious when you think about it.

Thats an oversimplification when you have a chute that directs the material into a skip.

I also bet most people in London, even near the Palace stables don't "look around for horses". My office was next door and seeing horses on the street was the exception rather than the rule.

The Highway code requires riders to be able to control their horses Rule 52. It does not provide exceptions.

The person that wrote rule 52 wants to go and ride a few horses and not the 30 yr old riding school ones then report back on that rule....horses are mental, all of them are at some point. In my experience, the more you pay for a horse, the more they are mental.

[Rusty Old-Banger]

Caddyshack said:

blueg33 said:

valiant said:

blueg33 said:

Petrus1983 said:

808 Estate said:

fiatpower said:

the horses bolted after "building materials were dropped from height right next to them"

To be fair, that would probably scare the crap out of most people or animals.

Apparently there were a lot of horses present at the time - absolutely ridiculous behaviour by the builders if true.

They may not have noticed the horses, especially if they were chucking stuff into a chute under a covered scaffold.

Surely the onus is on the handlers/riders of the horses to manage the risk, not on members of the public.?

First thing you learn in the building trade, always look around for horses before attempting anything.

Obvious when you think about it.

Thats an oversimplification when you have a chute that directs the material into a skip.

I also bet most people in London, even near the Palace stables don't "look around for horses". My office was next door and seeing horses on the street was the exception rather than the rule.

The Highway code requires riders to be able to control their horses Rule 52. It does not provide exceptions.

The person that wrote rule 52 wants to go and ride a few horses and not the 30 yr old riding school ones then report back on that rule....horses are mental, all of them are at some point. In my experience, the more you pay for a horse, the more they are mental.

Agree re. mental.

And there's a really easy way to comply with rule 52...

[blueg33]

Caddyshack said:

The person that wrote rule 52 wants to go and ride a few horses and not the 30 yr old riding school ones then report back on that rule....horses are mental, all of them are at some point. In my experience, the more you pay for a horse, the more they are mental.

Totally agree - so what are they doing being ridden around a busy city? London is always noisy, there is always building going on etc. There is always the risk that a horse cannot be controlled in those circumstances. So should they even be there?

You can lose control of a car, but its still your fault, same applies to horses

[hidetheelephants]

This never happened to Harold and Albert, Hercules was a stoic.

[pocketspring]

Petrus1983 said:

Last Visit said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Spare tyre said:

pocketspring said:

blueg33 said:

Caddyshack said:

Eek,

My friend was telling me that he was on a sports bike with a girlfriend on the back and they were going at a very illegal speed when a small deer ran out, he said that he did not know how his brain computed it but he moved his weight back and gave it full throttle and chopped the animal in half without coming off the bike....obviously that would not happen with a half ton pony!

TBH - not very believable.

Lol Jay Cartwright!

I’d have bunny deer hopped it

Shirley?

Agree with the not very believable.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Meh, that's nothing. I once rode a unicycle through a rhino.

[The Gauge]

Once when swimming in the sea I got swallowed by a whale, but I was swimming so fast and powerfully that I tore right out the arse end of it and carried on without even knowing about it.

True story,

[Petrus1983]

pocketspring said:

Meh, that's nothing. I once rode a unicycle through a rhino.

Fair play - did it with an elephant but a rhino is next level.

[carlo996]

st happens. Get over it.

[Chrisgr31]

blueg33 said:

Totally agree - so what are they doing being ridden around a busy city? London is always noisy, there is always building going on etc. There is always the risk that a horse cannot be controlled in those circumstances. So should they even be there?

You can lose control of a car, but its still your fault, same applies to horses

One of the articles mentioned that there are around 150 military horses exercised in London every day, and of course you also have both the City and Metropolitan police having horses on the streets every day.

The horses are effectively a tourism asset for London and always attract attention. They need to be trained for the ceremonial events they are part of and those events are great crowd pullers.

Fortunately events like this are very rare and whilst there was damage to 3rd parties vehicles there was only one 3rd party human injured. It only got lots of coverage due to how unusual it was.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Get rid of the buses and cars. Keep the horses.

[Gary29]

Turn all the horses into glue and keep the buses and cars.

[Bonefish Blues]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Get rid of the buses and cars. Keep the horses.

It'd make bugger all difference to traffic speeds

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/fleet-management/case-...

[The Gauge]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Get rid of the buses and cars. Keep the horses.

They should invent Uberhorses (Ubersteed?). Just jump on one and ride to where you're going, then jump off. With tracking on/in the horse, the Uberhorse/Ubersteed app will let you know where to find one.

[CraigyMc]

The Gauge said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Get rid of the buses and cars. Keep the horses.

They should invent Uberhorses (Ubersteed?). Just jump on one and ride to where you're going, then jump off. With tracking on/in the horse, the Uberhorse/Ubersteed app will let you know where to find one.

They'd call it something like "clop" and run it at a loss for the first 9 years to monopolise the market, killing off competition from "heehaw", "moo" and "oink".

[pocketspring]

CraigyMc said:

The Gauge said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Get rid of the buses and cars. Keep the horses.

They should invent Uberhorses (Ubersteed?). Just jump on one and ride to where you're going, then jump off. With tracking on/in the horse, the Uberhorse/Ubersteed app will let you know where to find one.

They'd call it something like "clop" and run it at a loss for the first 9 years to monopolise the market, killing off competition from "heehaw", "moo" and "oink".

Would the horses be entitled to holiday and a pension fund or "Self-employed" so the employer doesn't have to put their hands in their pockets?

[Bonefish Blues]

pocketspring said:

CraigyMc said:

The Gauge said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Get rid of the buses and cars. Keep the horses.

They should invent Uberhorses (Ubersteed?). Just jump on one and ride to where you're going, then jump off. With tracking on/in the horse, the Uberhorse/Ubersteed app will let you know where to find one.

They'd call it something like "clop" and run it at a loss for the first 9 years to monopolise the market, killing off competition from "heehaw", "moo" and "oink".

Would the horses be entitled to holiday and a pension fund or "Self-employed" so the employer doesn't have to put their hands in their pockets?

We at www.dobbinondemand are already providing fields, hays and all the required statutory elements. Ride with us.

[Evanivitch]

blueg33 said:

The Highway code requires riders to be able to control their horses Rule 52. It does not provide exceptions.

Pointed out the same when my squeaky bicycle brakes spooked a horse.

[blueg33]

Seeing reports that the horses are not well cared for, no space to run and roll, kept in stalls rather than loose boxes, mistreated by soldiers etc

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/cavalry-horses-dirty-wa...

[Chrisgr31]

blueg33 said:

Seeing reports that the horses are not well cared for, no space to run and roll, kept in stalls rather than loose boxes, mistreated by soldiers etc

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/cavalry-horses-dirty-wa...

I listened to some of the Jeremy Vine coverage of this today and cam to the conclusion there is a concerted campaign by some to try and stop the horses being used and jumping on a bandwagon. I suspect at least one of the contributors was the same as in that article. To say “ They are ready to explode” must be garbage as soldiers aren’t getting thrown off every day!

They say in London you are never more than 6ft from a rat, seems unlikely however stables are going to be an ideal living place for rats plenty of food, water and heat. Also difficult to use poison etc to control rats as you don’t want to horses eating or getting caught in it.