"We can't afford another stimulus package" Mervyn King

"We can't afford another stimulus package" Mervyn King

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Martial Arts Man

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6,601 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

What can we read into this then chaps?

I think this is a move designed to enable Gordon to blame the BOE when things get worse biggrin


ShadownINja

76,424 posts

283 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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When will the Scottish, one-eyed idiot realise that his obsessive gambling has failed?

Yes, he is Scottish.

Yes, he can only see through one-eye.

Yes, he has proved he is an idiot.

JagLover

42,492 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

What can we read into this then chaps?
The fact that the public finances are destroyed

Martial Arts Man

Original Poster:

6,601 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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JagLover said:
Martial Arts Man said:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...

What can we read into this then chaps?
The fact that the public finances are destroyed
Not exactly a "newsflash" though......

You are right though, of course.


The lefties won't get the message though, as all the ones I have the pleasure of knowing seem to think that money grows in big Government money-tree vineyards; if the gov't doesn't spend it, the nasty Tories will give it to all their "rich mates"....I kid you not, I heard this only yesterday.

ShadownINja

76,424 posts

283 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Will Clown go down in history as Gordon the Gambler?

HowMuchLonger

3,005 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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ShadownINja said:
Will Clown go down in history as Gordon the Gambler?
Gordon has given us stability, so there is no more boom and bust. The economic problems are all due to America/Global Warming/Al Qaeda.

Martial Arts Man

Original Poster:

6,601 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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HowMuchLonger said:
ShadownINja said:
Will Clown go down in history as Gordon the Gambler?
Gordon has given us stability, so there is no more boom and bust. The economic problems are all due to America/Global Warming/Al Qaeda.
Don't forget 12 years of Tory opposition. Another Labour-ist piece of rhetoric, "Maggie's fault". rolleyes

DJC

23,563 posts

237 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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I didnt know we could afford the first one.

davido140

9,614 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
HowMuchLonger said:
ShadownINja said:
Will Clown go down in history as Gordon the Gambler?
Gordon has given us stability, so there is no more boom and bust. The economic problems are all due to America/Global Warming/Al Qaeda.
Don't forget 12 years of Tory opposition. Another Labour-ist piece of rhetoric, "Maggie's fault". rolleyes
I nearly chinned a guy I know for suggesting that it wasnt broowns fault at all, even though he was chancellor for 10 years, the "seeds were sewn" by the conservatives.

I stiffled my head-butting and just asked "why the fk didnt he fix it then, he had the time" and a "enjoy your redundancy, you voted them in" he's working in construction and is rather quiet right now, mean I know, but I think he deserved it for being a mong.


maser_spyder

6,356 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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It will be quite funny in a few years to see Britain wandering round, pants on head, playing a Harmonica, singing out of tune and begging for the price of a cuppa tea guv'nor.

Not much any of us can do about it though!

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:

"So just how sorry is David Cameron? On Friday he put his hands up to being part of a “cosy consensus” on tax and spending. So I had expected his press conference today to declare he’d torn up his plans to outspend what he inherits from Labour. All bets are off, I expected him to say, it's time for clean slate, and the Tories can make no promises on spending until they see the government books - i.e. real spending cuts aren't ruled out. But nope - his original position still stands: that the only question in his mind is the rate of increase in spending. But it will increase. And so, ergo, will debt.

So how can Cameron claim to be “solving Labour’s debt crisis” while proposing to massively increase public debt – which he would do, even by freezing spending in real terms? I asked him this in the press conference this morning. Cameron replied that hasn’t given details on his plans. But even if he implements a freeze, then debt (even excluding the banks) would rise from £730bn the year before the election (2009-10) to £960bn in 2013-14. By no stretch of the English language is this “solving a debt crisis”. Unkind souls might call it a “cosy consensus” - this idea that spending has to keep rising, even when tax revenues collapse. And that the public prefer higher spending to being saddled with debt.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3447096/it-...

Click the link to see a nice graph showing just how rubbish he is.

JagLover

42,492 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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ShadownINja said:
When will the Scottish, one-eyed idiot
nono

Winky McF*cknut

esselte

14,626 posts

268 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:

"So just how sorry is David Cameron? On Friday he put his hands up to being part of a “cosy consensus” on tax and spending. So I had expected his press conference today to declare he’d torn up his plans to outspend what he inherits from Labour. All bets are off, I expected him to say, it's time for clean slate, and the Tories can make no promises on spending until they see the government books - i.e. real spending cuts aren't ruled out. But nope - his original position still stands: that the only question in his mind is the rate of increase in spending. But it will increase. And so, ergo, will debt.

So how can Cameron claim to be “solving Labour’s debt crisis” while proposing to massively increase public debt – which he would do, even by freezing spending in real terms? I asked him this in the press conference this morning. Cameron replied that hasn’t given details on his plans. But even if he implements a freeze, then debt (even excluding the banks) would rise from £730bn the year before the election (2009-10) to £960bn in 2013-14. By no stretch of the English language is this “solving a debt crisis”. Unkind souls might call it a “cosy consensus” - this idea that spending has to keep rising, even when tax revenues collapse. And that the public prefer higher spending to being saddled with debt.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3447096/it-...

Click the link to see a nice graph showing just how rubbish he is.
So you're trying to blame Cameron for the problems...?

JagLover

42,492 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:
Bear in mind that any Tory commitment to cut spending will be relentlessly demonised by Labour and their helpers in the media.

All Cameron can do is hint at what he will do once in office.


Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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esselte said:
Fittster said:
Lots of things about Dave matching Gordon's spending
So you're trying to blame Cameron for the problems...?
I'm of the opinion he won't resolve the public debt problems by making the necessary cuts in public spending.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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JagLover said:
Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:
Bear in mind that any Tory commitment to cut spending will be relentlessly demonised by Labour and their helpers in the media.

All Cameron can do is hint at what he will do once in office.
So people should vote for a party who will only vaguley hint about their policies and intentions?

esselte

14,626 posts

268 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Fittster said:
JagLover said:
Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:
Bear in mind that any Tory commitment to cut spending will be relentlessly demonised by Labour and their helpers in the media.

All Cameron can do is hint at what he will do once in office.
So people should vote for a party who will only vaguley hint about their policies and intentions?
What good is showing your hand this long before an election...? If you come up with, and publish, good ideas then the other party will adopt them as their own surely?

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Fittster said:
JagLover said:
Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:
Bear in mind that any Tory commitment to cut spending will be relentlessly demonised by Labour and their helpers in the media.

All Cameron can do is hint at what he will do once in office.
So people should vote for a party who will only vaguley hint about their policies and intentions?
Is it election time? Manifestos are where you show your hand in detail and no-one has produced one of those yet.

tamore

7,018 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Fittster said:
JagLover said:
Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:
Bear in mind that any Tory commitment to cut spending will be relentlessly demonised by Labour and their helpers in the media.

All Cameron can do is hint at what he will do once in office.
So people should vote for a party who will only vaguley hint about their policies and intentions?
in this case, yes. there's no way that a party will get in if they spell out the pain they'll have to put the country thorough to get finances back to stability, let along to start improving them.

s2art

18,938 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Fittster said:
JagLover said:
Fittster said:
As if Dave has the balls to fix the problem:
Bear in mind that any Tory commitment to cut spending will be relentlessly demonised by Labour and their helpers in the media.

All Cameron can do is hint at what he will do once in office.
So people should vote for a party who will only vaguley hint about their policies and intentions?
Problem is, he is on to a hiding to nothing at this stage. We have not yet reached the point, as in 1979, where the public have really accepted the total screw-up Labour has made with the economy.
It will happen soon, and at that point the Tories can deliver the bad news along with policies to deal with the problem. 'There is no alternative!'