The "new" terrorist threat

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Jonc

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151 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Its that time again when certain unsavoury topics are starting to appear in the media that puts the Government in bad light. So lets get the propaganda machine back in full swing (had it ever stopped?) and keep the masses under control and in fear. Jacqui Smith is now saying (again) the British public is now under a great threat of a terrorist attack using a "dirty bomb" and are to train key people in society to prepare, spot and deal with terrorists. What happened to "do not let terrorists change our lives"? Is it more spin from the Government to bury bad news? Just like last Christmas, like a quarterly reminder, we are supposedly in the grip of fear from terrorist attacks or is it to perhaps divert attention from:

  • the hypocrisy of criticizing bonus culture when MPs make questionable expense claims at great cost to the tax payer
  • the failing economic policy and split in the economy between Brown and the Bank of England and the EU
  • the recession and the doom and gloom financial crisis
  • the up and coming G20 protests
  • rising unemployment to over 2 million
  • rising inflation and the shrinking economy
  • MP sex scandal in the Commons
  • introduction of ID cards in the Autumn
  • the national debt to rise to over £1 trillion.
  • the new unaffordable fiscal stimulus policy
  • the failure of government bonds
  • the devaluing of the pound
  • the inquiry into the invasion of Iraq
  • the Government monitoring of social networking sites
  • UK forces to stay in Afghanistan
  • the illegal Government databases
We know we are under threat from terrorists attacks, our Government increase our risk to this threat when they sent our troops to invade Iraq/Afghanistan!

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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I think that the government is under far more of a threat from the man in the street now than any terrorist.

maxrider

2,481 posts

237 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Jonc said:
* introduction of ID cards in the Autumn
Eh? Compulsory? Replacing passports? More info please

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Asterix said:
I think that the government is under far more of a threat from the man in the street now than any terrorist.
The PH coup mooted again...

911motorsport

7,251 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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'the Government monitoring of social networking sites'

que?

digger_R

1,807 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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from Chambers online

terrorism: noun the systematic and organized use of violence and intimidation to force a government or community, etc to act in a certain way or accept certain demands. terrorist noun, adj.



If you remove the word violence (whether violence has already been used is debatable, so lets discount it for now) then the current government would be the chief protagonists of terrorism in the country, non?


AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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911motorsport said:
'the Government monitoring of social networking sites'

que?
I was wondering about the rabid labour supporters who pop up to defend Winky & his magic friends

Invisible man

39,731 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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So, how much will this cost me?

Snoggledog

7,104 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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maxrider said:
Jonc said:
* introduction of ID cards in the Autumn
Eh? Compulsory? Replacing passports? More info please
There was something about it in P&P a while ago. A quick search didn't come up with anything but there is a Wiki article about it which states "Autumn 2009" about halfway down.

ETA.

Thales won the contract. Typical that they can't even use a British company to develop it.

Edited by Snoggledog on Thursday 26th March 13:24

Jonc

Original Poster:

151 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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911motorsport said:
'the Government monitoring of social networking sites'

que?
http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/200...


maxrider said:
Eh? Compulsory? Replacing passports? More info please
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/...

Fezant Pluckah

1,711 posts

212 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Asterix said:
I think that the government is under far more of a threat from the man in the street now than any terrorist.
I think the man in the street is under far more of a threat from the government now than any terrorist.

Jasandjules

69,960 posts

230 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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digger_R said:
from Chambers online

terrorism: noun the systematic and organized use of violence and intimidation to force a government or community, etc to act in a certain way or accept certain demands. terrorist noun, adj.



If you remove the word violence (whether violence has already been used is debatable, so lets discount it for now) then the current government would be the chief protagonists of terrorism in the country, non?
Why remove it? Try protesting against them and violence is used pretty swiftly, even if you are an 80 year old man heckling at a conference.

Martial Arts Man

6,601 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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What worries me most is the 60000 helpers, sorry Spies, that the gov't is recruiting.

Eery reminder of totalitarianist rule.

How long before these spies are turned to "internal monitoring"? Scary.

Invisible man

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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60,000? got a link?

arguti

1,776 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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maxrider said:
Jonc said:
* introduction of ID cards in the Autumn
Eh? Compulsory? Replacing passports? More info please
ID cards have already been introduced for all foreign workers entering the UK, testing the system there before (possible) introduction for UK population

Martial Arts Man

6,601 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Invisible man said:
60,000? got a link?
That is the figure HaHa quoted at deputy PMQs on Wednesday when referring to her new "anti terror" helpers.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
Invisible man said:
60,000? got a link?
That is the figure HaHa quoted at deputy PMQs on Wednesday when referring to her new "anti terror" helpers.
And from the same report (I think..), it will, or is costing the taxpayer £10 million a WEEK!

Martial Arts Man

6,601 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
Invisible man said:
60,000? got a link?
That is the figure HaHa quoted at deputy PMQs on Wednesday when referring to her new "anti terror" helpers.
OK, I think I'm going crazy.

I have just read the transcript of PMQs and can't find a single reference to this.

Yet, I am as sure as night is day that she mentioned this.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/...

Sorry chaps.....still think I'm right on this one though....just need to find the damned source!

esselte

14,626 posts

268 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
Martial Arts Man said:
Invisible man said:
60,000? got a link?
That is the figure HaHa quoted at deputy PMQs on Wednesday when referring to her new "anti terror" helpers.
OK, I think I'm going crazy.

I have just read the transcript of PMQs and can't find a single reference to this.

Yet, I am as sure as night is day that she mentioned this.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/...

Sorry chaps.....still think I'm right on this one though....just need to find the damned source!
Is something like this any help?

Martial Arts Man

6,601 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
Martial Arts Man said:
Invisible man said:
60,000? got a link?
That is the figure HaHa quoted at deputy PMQs on Wednesday when referring to her new "anti terror" helpers.
OK, I think I'm going crazy.

I have just read the transcript of PMQs and can't find a single reference to this.

Yet, I am as sure as night is day that she mentioned this.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/...

Sorry chaps.....still think I'm right on this one though....just need to find the damned source!
Got it!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/mar/23/jac...