How did this get to court?
Discussion
DamoLLb said:
G'kar said:
IIRC, the law was changed recently. It may have been in response to a Security Guard who had a go on a pissed girl passed out in the corridor of a university a year or two back.
Not saying I agree with it, but it's a reason to be careful in such situations.
It was at my old uni Aberystwyth. She retracted her consent after giving it under the influence. I dont know how long that judgement will stand. Not saying I agree with it, but it's a reason to be careful in such situations.
How come some drunk girl can put a guy in jail just because she made a bad decision when drunk???
GTIR said:
As far as I am concerned you should never have sex with a woman if she is pissed (not tipsy), especially if she is unconscious through alcohol, and more so if you hardly know her. Full stop.
If you do your a prat.
That'll get the birth rate down, it seems a bit harsh on the ugly people though they'll never get any.If you do your a prat.
GTIR said:
ukwill said:
GTIR said:
As far as I am concerned you should never have sex with a woman if she is pissed (not tipsy), especially if she is unconscious through alcohol, and more so if you hardly know her. Full stop.
If you do your a prat.
what about if you are both w@nkered (as in this case?)If you do your a prat.
Its just not worth the risk, and anyway surely you should have more respect for the lady you are with?
I have been in this situation before, and even in my w
kered state I was man enough to realise it was not right.Next morning mind we were at it like rabbits!
And it wasnt even easter, although I did have some chocolate....
Beer goggles = s
t happens.HRG said:
GTIR said:
ukwill said:
GTIR said:
As far as I am concerned you should never have sex with a woman if she is pissed (not tipsy), especially if she is unconscious through alcohol, and more so if you hardly know her. Full stop.
If you do your a prat.
what about if you are both w@nkered (as in this case?)If you do your a prat.
Its just not worth the risk, and anyway surely you should have more respect for the lady you are with?
I have been in this situation before, and even in my w
kered state I was man enough to realise it was not right.Next morning mind we were at it like rabbits!
And it wasnt even easter, although I did have some chocolate....
Beer goggles = s
t happens.Just another piece of well meant law, which in practice criminalises the man before he is tried and convicted. No down side for the women though. At her age, she shares responsibility with the man, as to what happens after drinking to much and not knowing whether she actually gave consent or not. If he is found not guilty, the women’s name should be made public as a warning to other men, to give her a very wide berth. All this old pony about this will put women off coming forward and reporting rape is just so much old baloney. This man's rights to be treated equally with the women’s anonymity just don't seem important. Just more sham justice for men. If this country ever ends up with Sharia law, women may rue the day they dismantled men’s rights in cases like these.
ianash said:
Just another piece of well meant law, which in practice criminalises the man before he is tried and convicted. No down side for the women though. At her age, she shares responsibility with the man, as to what happens after drinking to much and not knowing whether she actually gave consent or not. If he is found not guilty, the women’s name should be made public as a warning to other men, to give her a very wide berth. All this old pony about this will put women off coming forward and reporting rape is just so much old baloney. This man's rights to be treated equally with the women’s anonymity just don't seem important. Just more sham justice for men. If this country ever ends up with Sharia law, women may rue the day they dismantled men’s rights in cases like these.
In these cases I don't understand why both parties can't be givin anonymity until after the trial...if the guy is innocent then there's no need for his name to be released afterwards either...when she asked "did we have sex" and he said yes, she went mental and cried rape....
So why did he not just say....."ahhhhhhhhhh, gotcha!! Course we didn't I'm winding you up!!, Now pop your knickers on and make me a cuppa will you?"
Surely a more canny response than calling the police and reporting the "rape" himself!!
Almost a Darwin award required for that!
So why did he not just say....."ahhhhhhhhhh, gotcha!! Course we didn't I'm winding you up!!, Now pop your knickers on and make me a cuppa will you?"
Surely a more canny response than calling the police and reporting the "rape" himself!!
Almost a Darwin award required for that!
esselte said:
ianash said:
Just another piece of well meant law, which in practice criminalises the man before he is tried and convicted. No down side for the women though. At her age, she shares responsibility with the man, as to what happens after drinking to much and not knowing whether she actually gave consent or not. If he is found not guilty, the women’s name should be made public as a warning to other men, to give her a very wide berth. All this old pony about this will put women off coming forward and reporting rape is just so much old baloney. This man's rights to be treated equally with the women’s anonymity just don't seem important. Just more sham justice for men. If this country ever ends up with Sharia law, women may rue the day they dismantled men’s rights in cases like these.
In these cases I don't understand why both parties can't be givin anonymity until after the trial...if the guy is innocent then there's no need for his name to be released afterwards either...It makes me sick how possibly innocent people can have their lives ruined by being named. People automatically assume he is guilty if he's accused, let alone taken to court. I am completely in agreement that the woman should be named if he is acquitted, but it never happens does it?
alock said:
The law now implies:
A drunk man is responsible for his actions.
A drunk woman isn't responsible for her actions.
Therefore men must be superior.
Didn't think it was law though. I thought the guidelines for consent had been changed, and that a judge has already thrown this out in a previous case.A drunk man is responsible for his actions.
A drunk woman isn't responsible for her actions.
Therefore men must be superior.
ofcorsa said:
HRG said:
GTIR said:
ukwill said:
GTIR said:
As far as I am concerned you should never have sex with a woman if she is pissed (not tipsy), especially if she is unconscious through alcohol, and more so if you hardly know her. Full stop.
If you do your a prat.
what about if you are both w@nkered (as in this case?)If you do your a prat.
Its just not worth the risk, and anyway surely you should have more respect for the lady you are with?
I have been in this situation before, and even in my w
kered state I was man enough to realise it was not right.Next morning mind we were at it like rabbits!
And it wasnt even easter, although I did have some chocolate....
Beer goggles = s
t happens.DamoLLb said:
randomman said:
WHat happens if you put a male serial rapist in a locked room with a serial female rapist?
The law does not recognise a female rapist. A hard on constitutes as consent.HTH
t?What about if the woman's nips go hard? Does that mean she's consented too?
Just because someone gets a lob on doesn't mean they consent to sex.
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