WTF is Brown doing with my Monarchy?
Discussion
Changing the succession rules was talked about in the Lords at least 10 years ago - I remember Jeffrey Archer making a speech about it and as I recall saying the Queen had agreed in principle and legislation would be brought forth in the future - never happened. This is not a new Brown invention (although any reason to have a go at him is a good one 
).
I don't care what faith (if any) the monarch follows. I do not want an elected president. While in principle I agree that having a hereditry head of state is wrong, even if the role has no genuine power (the fastest way to a republic would be for the monarch to act against the wishes of parliament IMO), the practicalities of an elected president are a massive deterrent.
First, as someone that is elected they would feel they have a mandate and might start acting against the will of parliament.
Second, it will end up being a politician. Probably a rubbish one. If you look at Eire for a practical example where the president has similar limited powers to our monarch they keep electing politicians to the role. I'm afraid "President Blair" would not command either my respect or loyalty in the way that the Queen does because she is seen as being above politics.
).I don't care what faith (if any) the monarch follows. I do not want an elected president. While in principle I agree that having a hereditry head of state is wrong, even if the role has no genuine power (the fastest way to a republic would be for the monarch to act against the wishes of parliament IMO), the practicalities of an elected president are a massive deterrent.
First, as someone that is elected they would feel they have a mandate and might start acting against the will of parliament.
Second, it will end up being a politician. Probably a rubbish one. If you look at Eire for a practical example where the president has similar limited powers to our monarch they keep electing politicians to the role. I'm afraid "President Blair" would not command either my respect or loyalty in the way that the Queen does because she is seen as being above politics.
voyds9 said:
pimpin gimp said:
So I hear he's putting forward law changes so the Royals aren't limited by religeon or sex... it's the Monarchy not a bloody office development, the first born son has always been the head of the family (once promoted as it were)
And why let Catholics in? They're the head of the church of england...
God dammit man, just butt out.
Discrimination indeed... Pillock.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7967142.stm
It's not aimed at the CatholicsAnd why let Catholics in? They're the head of the church of england...
God dammit man, just butt out.
Discrimination indeed... Pillock.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7967142.stm
cardigankid said:
It's aimed at creating a diversion from the horrific mess he has made of the economy. It doesn't matter a damn. Charles will be the next King, and I am sure he will be good at it.
Yep - smoke an mirrors. Try to get people worked up about something other than Brown's personal mishandling of the economy of this country.Jinx said:
cardigankid said:
It's aimed at creating a diversion from the horrific mess he has made of the economy. It doesn't matter a damn. Charles will be the next King, and I am sure he will be good at it.
Yep - smoke an mirrors. Try to get people worked up about something other than Brown's personal mishandling of the economy of this country.
/tinfoil hat mode
He's going to fix it so when he declares national emergency enxt year he can then promote himself to king and thus avoid ever having to give anything back. after all you've seen his msot recent performances when getting beasted by the MEP's its all practice, surprised we missed his royal wave attempts in the mirror.
/tinfoil hat mode off
He's going to fix it so when he declares national emergency enxt year he can then promote himself to king and thus avoid ever having to give anything back. after all you've seen his msot recent performances when getting beasted by the MEP's its all practice, surprised we missed his royal wave attempts in the mirror.
/tinfoil hat mode off
Jasandjules said:
Well, maybe the Queen will sort it out... Next time he goes into a tunnel.....
Let's hope so.
I suppose as someone who holds a constitutional position despite not being elected Brown it's understandable Brown doesn't entirely grasp the concept of power going to the first born son.
randlemarcus said:
Tony*T3 said:
I cant see any issue with the succession chage - all of our Greatest Monarchs were female, all of our worst were male.
Not sure the subjects of Queen Matilda agreed with you there. Open rebellion, if I recall correctly. I'll cede the point after Betty I though.ahem, bloody queen Mary...
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