Hacker to be extradited
Discussion
Jimbeaux said:
birdcage said:
The Yanks are total lunatics, nobody does stupidity and disproportionate behaviour like them.
Yep, that's us; and with all of the less insane nations out there you could ally yourselves with. 
Gotta love it!
Bing o said:
Jimbeaux said:
birdcage said:
The Yanks are total lunatics, nobody does stupidity and disproportionate behaviour like them.
I would take great delight in telling them to stick this one any other of their silly b
ks
Yep, that's us; and with all of the less insane nations out there you could ally yourselves with. I would take great delight in telling them to stick this one any other of their silly b
ks
Saddle bum said:
mattviatura said:
birdcage said:
The Yanks are total lunatics, nobody does stupidity and disproportionate behaviour like them.
I would take great delight in telling them to stick this one any other of their silly bks
I am utterly unable to understand the rabid hatred many of my countrymen have towards the yanks and their country. I appreciate it's a left-wing comedian's wet dream but there are much more unpleasant regimes you know.I would take great delight in telling them to stick this one any other of their silly b
ksWe have little to be proud of here.
It's all well and good bhing about anti Americanism, but is it any wonder? Here we have a computer nerd with aspergers, he did something silly from a computer in his own home and now they want to make use of a one sided extradition treaty that was agreed to for the "war on terror" to try him in the US with a sentence of up to 60 years. Or fry his ass, yee haa.
If you want to stop anti Americanism, start with the plonkers in Washington who seem to delight in stirring it up.
Of course the blame from a British perspective really lies with Labour for agreeing to the stupid treaty in the first place, but we already know what a bunch of crooks they were.
hing about anti Americanism, but is it any wonder? Here we have a computer nerd with aspergers, he did something silly from a computer in his own home and now they want to make use of a one sided extradition treaty that was agreed to for the "war on terror" to try him in the US with a sentence of up to 60 years. Or fry his ass, yee haa.If you want to stop anti Americanism, start with the plonkers in Washington who seem to delight in stirring it up.
Of course the blame from a British perspective really lies with Labour for agreeing to the stupid treaty in the first place, but we already know what a bunch of crooks they were.
mko9 said:
Or alternatively, the you guys could actually take some responsibility and try him for the crime in your country. Since you seem to be completely unwilling or unable to try someone who has commited a crime, the US is trying to get him extradited.
How quaint.Were it not for the one sided extradition treaty, he likely would have been tried here, punishment dished out and this whole farce avoided. McKinnon himself has said he would be happy to be tried here.
mko9 said:
Or alternatively, the you guys could actually take some responsibility and try him for the crime in your country. Since you seem to be completely unwilling or unable to try someone who has commited a crime, the US is trying to get him extradited.
The crime he is accused of committing carries a pretty lenient sentence in UK (if one at all, as a lack of security on the system could mean he simply gets a slap on the wrist), hence why the US wants to extradite him.mko9 said:
Or alternatively, the you guys could actually take some responsibility and try him for the crime in your country. Since you seem to be completely unwilling or unable to try someone who has commited a crime, the US is trying to get him extradited.
If I am not mistaken, he was offered a "deal" to do time in the U.K. and rejected the offer.mko9 said:
Or alternatively, the you guys could actually take some responsibility and try him for the crime in your country. Since you seem to be completely unwilling or unable to try someone who has commited a crime, the US is trying to get him extradited.
It seems like such a none crime to me that it probably wouldn't warrant prosecution in the UK. He logged on to a computer, did no damage, stole nothing and had a poke around to try and see an alien. He's a loony, but not a terrorist.Long live the 'special relationship'. FFS we were/are one of their strongest allies in Iraq and Afghanistan and this sounded like a fair compromise suggested by Winky - why drag your heels over an issue like this?
Telegraph said:
According to a secret cable from the Louis Susman, US ambassador in the UK, to Hilary Clinton, the Secretary of State, Mr Brown made his unsuccessful direct intervention in August 2009.
Susman wrote: "PM Brown, in a one-on-one meeting with the ambassador, proposed a deal: that McKinnon plead guilty, make a statement of contrition, but serve any sentence of incarceration in the UK.
Brown cited deep public concern that McKinnon, with his medical condition, would commit suicide or suffer injury if imprisoned in a US facility."
The ambassador says he raised Mr Brown's request in Washington with President Obama's newly appointed attorney general, Eric Holder. The plea, however, was unsuccessful.
In October last year, the ambassador warned Mrs Clinton that the prime minister was likely to raise the issue again during her visit to the UK.
"McKinnon has gained enormous popular sympathy in his appeal against extradition; the UK's final decision is pending." he wrote.
"The case has also caused public criticism of the US-UK extradition treaty."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8170195/WikiLeaks-Gordon-Browns-personal-plea-for-hacker-Gary-McKinnon-to-serve-sentence-in-Britain-rejected-by-US.htmlSusman wrote: "PM Brown, in a one-on-one meeting with the ambassador, proposed a deal: that McKinnon plead guilty, make a statement of contrition, but serve any sentence of incarceration in the UK.
Brown cited deep public concern that McKinnon, with his medical condition, would commit suicide or suffer injury if imprisoned in a US facility."
The ambassador says he raised Mr Brown's request in Washington with President Obama's newly appointed attorney general, Eric Holder. The plea, however, was unsuccessful.
In October last year, the ambassador warned Mrs Clinton that the prime minister was likely to raise the issue again during her visit to the UK.
"McKinnon has gained enormous popular sympathy in his appeal against extradition; the UK's final decision is pending." he wrote.
"The case has also caused public criticism of the US-UK extradition treaty."
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