Hacker to be extradited

[CommanderJameson]

Nadyenka said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nadyenka said:

The US Government will just make him work for them.

Yes. We learned that from the Russians.

I am glad you learned some thing

I do not think the US Government will want to put him in prison.They will use him to help with defence systems.Why would they waste some one who is valuable to them.They might not be fair but they are not stupid.

He's not valuable. He's going to prison.

[jesusbuiltmycar]

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

[s.m.h.]

Did he get the computer to play "tick tack toe" on a big screen....

That would have been priceless....

Edited by s.m.h. on Saturday 1st August 17:13

[Halb]

Even better if he had made the pc call it noughts and crosses

[odyssey2200]

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

would it be against their human rights?

[s.m.h.]

odyssey2200 said:

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

would it be against their human rights?

But because he is an English caucasian, probably born here, he has no human rights......

[odyssey2200]

s.m.h. said:

odyssey2200 said:

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

would it be against their human rights?

But because he is an English caucasian, probably born here, he has no human rights......

RACIST!!


well someone was going to say it!

[s.m.h.]

odyssey2200 said:

s.m.h. said:

odyssey2200 said:

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

would it be against their human rights?

But because he is an English caucasian, probably born here, he has no human rights......

RACIST!!


well someone was going to say it!

Bugger. Thought I'd worded that so it wasn't......

Anyways if he was clever enough to write a program to hack in, then he should be accountable. Hell its enough for me to update Firefox...... No not the plane Eastwood nicked either...

[odyssey2200]

s.m.h. said:

odyssey2200 said:

s.m.h. said:

odyssey2200 said:

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

would it be against their human rights?

But because he is an English caucasian, probably born here, he has no human rights......

RACIST!!


well someone was going to say it!

Bugger. Thought I'd worded that so it wasn't......

Anyways if he was clever enough to write a program to hack in, then he should be accountable. Hell its enough for me to update Firefox...... No not the plane Eastwood nicked either...

Alternatively if the US defence systen is that easy to hack then they deserve all they get and no amount of crying about it will alter the fact.

If they spent as much energy on saking their systems secure as the did on moral outrage, they might get on a bit better?

[esselte]

CommanderJameson said:

Nadyenka said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nadyenka said:

The US Government will just make him work for them.

Yes. We learned that from the Russians.

I am glad you learned some thing

I do not think the US Government will want to put him in prison.They will use him to help with defence systems.Why would they waste some one who is valuable to them.They might not be fair but they are not stupid.

He's not valuable. He's going to prison.

Correct,he's not that valuable if he only broke into systems with no password etc set.

[s.m.h.]

True, realistically they should feel themselves lucky the guy wasn't a terrorist. Sometimes people hack these things because they (governments) believe their systems to be impenetrable, to see how far they get.

[Marf]

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Why is it the the UK Governement has no problem handing over this "hacker" yet will not hand over Abu Hamza or Abu Qatada?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7233671.stm

Hamza was extradited to the US.

[elster]

Sorry but if this guy is that good.

Why isn't he being given a job?!!

[Nadyenka]

esselte said:

CommanderJameson said:

Nadyenka said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nadyenka said:

The US Government will just make him work for them.

Yes. We learned that from the Russians.

I am glad you learned some thing

I do not think the US Government will want to put him in prison.They will use him to help with defence systems.Why would they waste some one who is valuable to them.They might not be fair but they are not stupid.

He's not valuable. He's going to prison.

Correct,he's not that valuable if he only broke into systems with no password etc set.

I do not know what he has done.But if he has hacked the US Defence systems then he must be use ful to the US?.

[Marf]

Nadyenka said:

esselte said:

CommanderJameson said:

Nadyenka said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nadyenka said:

The US Government will just make him work for them.

Yes. We learned that from the Russians.

I am glad you learned some thing

I do not think the US Government will want to put him in prison.They will use him to help with defence systems.Why would they waste some one who is valuable to them.They might not be fair but they are not stupid.

He's not valuable. He's going to prison.

Correct,he's not that valuable if he only broke into systems with no password etc set.

I do not know what he has done.But if he has hacked the US Defence systems then he must be use ful to the US?.

Clearly you and many others do not understand how he accessed the machines. He simply identified machines with a blank or default password and then logged in.

As I've said before, to say he hacked into the machines grossly overstates his abilities. Hence he is likely of no use to the intelligence services here or abroad.

[esselte]

Nadyenka said:

esselte said:

CommanderJameson said:

Nadyenka said:

Jimbeaux said:

Nadyenka said:

The US Government will just make him work for them.

Yes. We learned that from the Russians.

I am glad you learned some thing

I do not think the US Government will want to put him in prison.They will use him to help with defence systems.Why would they waste some one who is valuable to them.They might not be fair but they are not stupid.

He's not valuable. He's going to prison.

Correct,he's not that valuable if he only broke into systems with no password etc set.

I do not know what he has done.But if he has hacked the US Defence systems then he must be use ful to the US?.

He accessed systems that had no password protection etc..not exactly the hardest thing to do...there's also the possibilty,in my mind at least,that these systems were left unprotected to catch people such as this guy...if you want a burglar why would you employ someone who can only get in through open doors?

Edited by esselte on Saturday 1st August 18:02

[Nadyenka]

I did not know this.Maybe he will have problems when he goes.If he is not a threat I do not know why they do not just warn him.Did he cause problems for them?.

[esselte]

Nadyenka said:

If he is not a threat I do not know why they do not just warn him..

Well I suppose a trial may be a visible deterrent to others?

[odyssey2200]

esselte said:

Nadyenka said:

If he is not a threat I do not know why they do not just warn him..

Well I suppose a trial may be a visible deterrent to others?

I don't foresee China agreeing to hand over any "Hackers" any time soon

In fact they would probably reward the guy.

[esselte]

odyssey2200 said:

esselte said:

Nadyenka said:

If he is not a threat I do not know why they do not just warn him..

Well I suppose a trial may be a visible deterrent to others?

I don't foresee China agreeing to hand over any "Hackers" any time soon

In fact they would probably reward the guy.

Have you read "Edge of Madness" by Michael Dobbs?