Climate Cat out of the Bag? Potentially dynamite revelations
Discussion
Dr Jekyll said:
deeps said:
This is worth watching, Piers Corbyn live on TV, gets a little heated at the end...
http://dailybayonet.com/?p=2167&utm_source=fee...
Can't blame Piers Corbyn for getting heated when his opponent said 'there has NEVER been malaria in Russia before'.http://dailybayonet.com/?p=2167&utm_source=fee...
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=330
"In fact, the most catastrophic epidemic on record anywhere in the world occurred in the Soviet Union in the 1920s, with a peak incidence of 13 million cases per year, and 600,000 deaths."
Specifically, in St Petersburg.
They do seem to have a penchant for malaria though. Gore has fibbywibbed in that area as well, it took one of the world's leading authorities to slap the greenwallet down. I speak of Dr Paul Reiter, he who had to threaten the IPCC with legal action before they removed his name from their precycled toilet paper.
Paul Reiter said:
I am a specialist in diseases transmitted by mosquitoes. So let's talk malaria. For 12 years, my colleagues and I have protested against the unsubstantiated claims that climate change is causing the disease to spread. We have failed miserably.
I wondered how many had taken anti-malaria tablets because they had seen Al Gore's film, ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, which claims that Nairobi was established in a healthy place ‘above the mosquito line’ but is now infested with mosquitoes — naturally, because of global warming.
Gore's claim is deceitful on four counts. Nairobi was dangerously infested when it was founded; it was founded for a railway, not for health reasons; it is now fairly clear of malaria; and it has not become warmer.
We have to hope that the new ‘Malaria No More’ campaign is based on sound science, unlike the UN's catastrophic current ‘Roll Back Malaria’ scheme, which has presided over a marked increase in victims since 1998.
Pseudoscience will damage your health and your wealth just as surely as malaria.
The vid is also evidence of the ecoluminati policy to sacrifice accuracy for effectiveness and influence:I wondered how many had taken anti-malaria tablets because they had seen Al Gore's film, ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, which claims that Nairobi was established in a healthy place ‘above the mosquito line’ but is now infested with mosquitoes — naturally, because of global warming.
Gore's claim is deceitful on four counts. Nairobi was dangerously infested when it was founded; it was founded for a railway, not for health reasons; it is now fairly clear of malaria; and it has not become warmer.
We have to hope that the new ‘Malaria No More’ campaign is based on sound science, unlike the UN's catastrophic current ‘Roll Back Malaria’ scheme, which has presided over a marked increase in victims since 1998.
Pseudoscience will damage your health and your wealth just as surely as malaria.
Schneider quoted by Dixy Lee Ray in Trashing the Planet said:
Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.
High Priest Hulme said:
scientists - and politicians - must trade (normal) truth for influence
There aren't enough 
these days.Edited by turbobloke on Thursday 26th November 18:40
DieselGriff said:
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Done!Dr Jekyll said:
deeps said:
This is worth watching, Piers Corbyn live on TV, gets a little heated at the end...
http://dailybayonet.com/?p=2167&utm_source=fee...
Can't blame Piers Corbyn for getting heated when his opponent said 'there has NEVER been malaria in Russia before'.http://dailybayonet.com/?p=2167&utm_source=fee...
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=330
" In fact, the most catastrophic epidemic on record anywhere in the world occurred in the Soviet Union in the 1920s, with a peak incidence of 13 million cases per year, and 600,000 deaths."
Specifically, in St Petersburg.
"Climategate e-mails sweep America, may scuttle Barack Obama's Cap and Trade laws"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100...
"Just a few considerations in addition to previous remarks about the explosion of the East Anglia Climategate e-mails in America. The reaction is growing exponentially there. Fox News, Barack Obama’s Nemesis, is now on the case, trampling all over Al Gore’s organic vegetable patch and breaking the White House windows. It has extracted some of the juiciest quotes from the e-mails and displayed them on-screen, with commentaries. Joe Public, coast-to-coast, now knows, thanks to the clowns at East Anglia’s CRU, just how royally he has been screwed.
Senator James Inhofe’s Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works has written to all the relevant US Government agencies, acquainting them with the nature of the e-mails. But the real car crash for Obama is on Capitol Hill where it is now confidently believed his Cap and Trade climate legislation is toast. It was always problematic; but with a growing awakening to the scale of the scientific imposture sweeping the world, as far as the Antipodes, the clever money is on Cap and Trade laws failing to pass, with many legislators sceptical and the mid-term elections looming ever closer.
At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited.
The term that Fox News is now applying to the Climategate e-mails is “game-changer”. For the first time, Anthropogenic Global Warming cranks are on the defensive, losing their cool and uttering desperate mantras such as “You can be sceptical, not denial.” Gee, thanks, guys. In fact we shall be whatever we want to be, without asking your permission.
At this rate, Copenhagen is going to turn into a comedy convention with the real world laughing at these liars. Now is the time to mount massive resistance to the petty tyrants and hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. Further down the line there may be, in many countries, a question of criminal prosecution of anybody who has falsified data to secure funds and impose potentially disastrous fiscal restraints on the world in deference to a massive hoax. It’s a new world out there, Al, and, as you may have noticed, the climate is very cold indeed"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100...
"Just a few considerations in addition to previous remarks about the explosion of the East Anglia Climategate e-mails in America. The reaction is growing exponentially there. Fox News, Barack Obama’s Nemesis, is now on the case, trampling all over Al Gore’s organic vegetable patch and breaking the White House windows. It has extracted some of the juiciest quotes from the e-mails and displayed them on-screen, with commentaries. Joe Public, coast-to-coast, now knows, thanks to the clowns at East Anglia’s CRU, just how royally he has been screwed.
Senator James Inhofe’s Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works has written to all the relevant US Government agencies, acquainting them with the nature of the e-mails. But the real car crash for Obama is on Capitol Hill where it is now confidently believed his Cap and Trade climate legislation is toast. It was always problematic; but with a growing awakening to the scale of the scientific imposture sweeping the world, as far as the Antipodes, the clever money is on Cap and Trade laws failing to pass, with many legislators sceptical and the mid-term elections looming ever closer.
At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited.
The term that Fox News is now applying to the Climategate e-mails is “game-changer”. For the first time, Anthropogenic Global Warming cranks are on the defensive, losing their cool and uttering desperate mantras such as “You can be sceptical, not denial.” Gee, thanks, guys. In fact we shall be whatever we want to be, without asking your permission.
At this rate, Copenhagen is going to turn into a comedy convention with the real world laughing at these liars. Now is the time to mount massive resistance to the petty tyrants and hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. Further down the line there may be, in many countries, a question of criminal prosecution of anybody who has falsified data to secure funds and impose potentially disastrous fiscal restraints on the world in deference to a massive hoax. It’s a new world out there, Al, and, as you may have noticed, the climate is very cold indeed"
groucho said:
DieselGriff said:
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Done!
chris watton said:
"Climategate e-mails sweep America, may scuttle Barack Obama's Cap and Trade laws"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100...
"Just a few considerations in addition to previous remarks about the explosion of the East Anglia Climategate e-mails in America. The reaction is growing exponentially there. Fox News, Barack Obama’s Nemesis, is now on the case, trampling all over Al Gore’s organic vegetable patch and breaking the White House windows. It has extracted some of the juiciest quotes from the e-mails and displayed them on-screen, with commentaries. Joe Public, coast-to-coast, now knows, thanks to the clowns at East Anglia’s CRU, just how royally he has been screwed.
Senator James Inhofe’s Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works has written to all the relevant US Government agencies, acquainting them with the nature of the e-mails. But the real car crash for Obama is on Capitol Hill where it is now confidently believed his Cap and Trade climate legislation is toast. It was always problematic; but with a growing awakening to the scale of the scientific imposture sweeping the world, as far as the Antipodes, the clever money is on Cap and Trade laws failing to pass, with many legislators sceptical and the mid-term elections looming ever closer.
At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited.
The term that Fox News is now applying to the Climategate e-mails is “game-changer”. For the first time, Anthropogenic Global Warming cranks are on the defensive, losing their cool and uttering desperate mantras such as “You can be sceptical, not denial.” Gee, thanks, guys. In fact we shall be whatever we want to be, without asking your permission.
At this rate, Copenhagen is going to turn into a comedy convention with the real world laughing at these liars. Now is the time to mount massive resistance to the petty tyrants and hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. Further down the line there may be, in many countries, a question of criminal prosecution of anybody who has falsified data to secure funds and impose potentially disastrous fiscal restraints on the world in deference to a massive hoax. It’s a new world out there, Al, and, as you may have noticed, the climate is very cold indeed"
Superb. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100...
"Just a few considerations in addition to previous remarks about the explosion of the East Anglia Climategate e-mails in America. The reaction is growing exponentially there. Fox News, Barack Obama’s Nemesis, is now on the case, trampling all over Al Gore’s organic vegetable patch and breaking the White House windows. It has extracted some of the juiciest quotes from the e-mails and displayed them on-screen, with commentaries. Joe Public, coast-to-coast, now knows, thanks to the clowns at East Anglia’s CRU, just how royally he has been screwed.
Senator James Inhofe’s Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works has written to all the relevant US Government agencies, acquainting them with the nature of the e-mails. But the real car crash for Obama is on Capitol Hill where it is now confidently believed his Cap and Trade climate legislation is toast. It was always problematic; but with a growing awakening to the scale of the scientific imposture sweeping the world, as far as the Antipodes, the clever money is on Cap and Trade laws failing to pass, with many legislators sceptical and the mid-term elections looming ever closer.
At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited.
The term that Fox News is now applying to the Climategate e-mails is “game-changer”. For the first time, Anthropogenic Global Warming cranks are on the defensive, losing their cool and uttering desperate mantras such as “You can be sceptical, not denial.” Gee, thanks, guys. In fact we shall be whatever we want to be, without asking your permission.
At this rate, Copenhagen is going to turn into a comedy convention with the real world laughing at these liars. Now is the time to mount massive resistance to the petty tyrants and hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. Further down the line there may be, in many countries, a question of criminal prosecution of anybody who has falsified data to secure funds and impose potentially disastrous fiscal restraints on the world in deference to a massive hoax. It’s a new world out there, Al, and, as you may have noticed, the climate is very cold indeed"
My cuppa warmed and tasted much better after reading that.
4hero said:
groucho said:
DieselGriff said:
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Done!Watched the "weally wunderfull" Bellamy video. Very interesting watch. Why is it that someone that is respected for so long overnight becomes a cast off due to his professional opinion?
The BBC wanted a one sided argument, so all non believers get ousted. True believers wouldnt see that as odd then?
A little more light heartedly.....
So, CO2 is harmful... Hmm.
1.8 BILLION serving of Coca Cola (alone- not including other brands) sold A DAY in the US in 04.
Each serving has approx 1.1grammes of CO2 *.
How much is absorbed into the body/released into the atmosphere?
Anyone care to do the math?
Coke Gas Tax on its way??
The BBC wanted a one sided argument, so all non believers get ousted. True believers wouldnt see that as odd then?
A little more light heartedly.....
So, CO2 is harmful... Hmm.
1.8 BILLION serving of Coca Cola (alone- not including other brands) sold A DAY in the US in 04.
Each serving has approx 1.1grammes of CO2 *.
How much is absorbed into the body/released into the atmosphere?
Anyone care to do the math?
Coke Gas Tax on its way??
- Found this on some science site, so cant be sure of how true the findings are. Maybe I'll hack their emails....
s.m.h. said:
Watched the "weally wunderfull" Bellamy video. Very interesting watch. Why is it that someone that is respected for so long overnight becomes a cast off due to his professional opinion?
The BBC wanted a one sided argument, so all non believers get ousted. True believers wouldnt see that as odd then?
A little more light heartedly.....
So, CO2 is harmful... Hmm.
1.8 BILLION serving of Coca Cola (alone- not including other brands) sold A DAY in the US in 04.
Each serving has approx 1.1grammes of CO2 *.
How much is absorbed into the body/released into the atmosphere?
Anyone care to do the math?
Coke Gas Tax on its way??
The BBC wanted a one sided argument, so all non believers get ousted. True believers wouldnt see that as odd then?
A little more light heartedly.....
So, CO2 is harmful... Hmm.
1.8 BILLION serving of Coca Cola (alone- not including other brands) sold A DAY in the US in 04.
Each serving has approx 1.1grammes of CO2 *.
How much is absorbed into the body/released into the atmosphere?
Anyone care to do the math?
Coke Gas Tax on its way??
- Found this on some science site, so cant be sure of how true the findings are. Maybe I'll hack their emails....
reminds me of Lenny Henry on Tis Was as a kid!
Well gwapple me Gwape nuts!!
[/lenny henry impression]
turbobloke said:
chris watton said:
"Climategate e-mails sweep America, may scuttle Barack Obama's Cap and Trade laws"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100...
"Just a few considerations in addition to previous remarks about the explosion of the East Anglia Climategate e-mails in America. The reaction is growing exponentially there. Fox News, Barack Obama’s Nemesis, is now on the case, trampling all over Al Gore’s organic vegetable patch and breaking the White House windows. It has extracted some of the juiciest quotes from the e-mails and displayed them on-screen, with commentaries. Joe Public, coast-to-coast, now knows, thanks to the clowns at East Anglia’s CRU, just how royally he has been screwed.
Senator James Inhofe’s Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works has written to all the relevant US Government agencies, acquainting them with the nature of the e-mails. But the real car crash for Obama is on Capitol Hill where it is now confidently believed his Cap and Trade climate legislation is toast. It was always problematic; but with a growing awakening to the scale of the scientific imposture sweeping the world, as far as the Antipodes, the clever money is on Cap and Trade laws failing to pass, with many legislators sceptical and the mid-term elections looming ever closer.
At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited.
The term that Fox News is now applying to the Climategate e-mails is “game-changer”. For the first time, Anthropogenic Global Warming cranks are on the defensive, losing their cool and uttering desperate mantras such as “You can be sceptical, not denial.” Gee, thanks, guys. In fact we shall be whatever we want to be, without asking your permission.
At this rate, Copenhagen is going to turn into a comedy convention with the real world laughing at these liars. Now is the time to mount massive resistance to the petty tyrants and hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. Further down the line there may be, in many countries, a question of criminal prosecution of anybody who has falsified data to secure funds and impose potentially disastrous fiscal restraints on the world in deference to a massive hoax. It’s a new world out there, Al, and, as you may have noticed, the climate is very cold indeed"
Superb. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100...
"Just a few considerations in addition to previous remarks about the explosion of the East Anglia Climategate e-mails in America. The reaction is growing exponentially there. Fox News, Barack Obama’s Nemesis, is now on the case, trampling all over Al Gore’s organic vegetable patch and breaking the White House windows. It has extracted some of the juiciest quotes from the e-mails and displayed them on-screen, with commentaries. Joe Public, coast-to-coast, now knows, thanks to the clowns at East Anglia’s CRU, just how royally he has been screwed.
Senator James Inhofe’s Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works has written to all the relevant US Government agencies, acquainting them with the nature of the e-mails. But the real car crash for Obama is on Capitol Hill where it is now confidently believed his Cap and Trade climate legislation is toast. It was always problematic; but with a growing awakening to the scale of the scientific imposture sweeping the world, as far as the Antipodes, the clever money is on Cap and Trade laws failing to pass, with many legislators sceptical and the mid-term elections looming ever closer.
At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited.
The term that Fox News is now applying to the Climategate e-mails is “game-changer”. For the first time, Anthropogenic Global Warming cranks are on the defensive, losing their cool and uttering desperate mantras such as “You can be sceptical, not denial.” Gee, thanks, guys. In fact we shall be whatever we want to be, without asking your permission.
At this rate, Copenhagen is going to turn into a comedy convention with the real world laughing at these liars. Now is the time to mount massive resistance to the petty tyrants and hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. Further down the line there may be, in many countries, a question of criminal prosecution of anybody who has falsified data to secure funds and impose potentially disastrous fiscal restraints on the world in deference to a massive hoax. It’s a new world out there, Al, and, as you may have noticed, the climate is very cold indeed"
My cuppa warmed and tasted much better after reading that.
They do seem to be running with it a lot more over there that we do here!
Good on them I say
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Me, too ! I had a right moan on the BBC complaints section.
I also got a reply from my MP, he seems to have dropped it like its hot !! Here is a part of his reply:
"Regarding climate change, I have forwarded your comments to Professor Bob Watson – the Government’s Chief Scientist – to ask him for his comments."
Still, Its got them talking !
I also got a reply from my MP, he seems to have dropped it like its hot !! Here is a part of his reply:
"Regarding climate change, I have forwarded your comments to Professor Bob Watson – the Government’s Chief Scientist – to ask him for his comments."
Still, Its got them talking !
Getragdogleg said:
Me, too ! I had a right moan on the BBC complaints section.
I also got a reply from my MP, he seems to have dropped it like its hot !! Here is a part of his reply:
"Regarding climate change, I have forwarded your comments to Professor Bob Watson – the Government’s Chief Scientist – to ask him for his comments."
Still, Its got them talking !
No reply from my MP despite 2 emails I also got a reply from my MP, he seems to have dropped it like its hot !! Here is a part of his reply:
"Regarding climate change, I have forwarded your comments to Professor Bob Watson – the Government’s Chief Scientist – to ask him for his comments."
Still, Its got them talking !
"At the more domestic level, the proposed ban on incandescent light bulbs, so supinely accepted in this servile state of Britain, is now provoking a huge backlash in America. US citizens do not like the government coming into their houses and putting their lights out. Voters may not understand the cut and thrust of climate debate at the technical level, but they know when the Man from Washington has crossed their threshold uninvited."
Despite the joy of seeing these b
ds finally getting what they deserve, the above highlights how bad things have become in our country. I'm quite ashamed of what we have let Blair and Brown do to us. The spread of chav culture, the lies told so desperately to keep us in with Bush, the utter corruption and arrogance of the expenses scandal, the total incompetance of our fiscal policy, the almost childlike petulance over the immigration policy, the disgraceful lack of balls to deal with Moslem extremist protests against our troops (try doing that in the US you s) and Browns stubborn obstinacy in not doing what's best for us all by throwing himself in front of a train. We are a country utterly devoid of morals, pride or guts.
Despite the joy of seeing these b
ds finally getting what they deserve, the above highlights how bad things have become in our country. I'm quite ashamed of what we have let Blair and Brown do to us. The spread of chav culture, the lies told so desperately to keep us in with Bush, the utter corruption and arrogance of the expenses scandal, the total incompetance of our fiscal policy, the almost childlike petulance over the immigration policy, the disgraceful lack of balls to deal with Moslem extremist protests against our troops (try doing that in the US you s) and Browns stubborn obstinacy in not doing what's best for us all by throwing himself in front of a train. We are a country utterly devoid of morals, pride or guts.Mondeohdear said:
- The more CO2 absorbed by the ocean the more acidic the ocean becomes, thus poisoning fish.
- The more the ice cap melts the higher the ocean levels become. Bye bye New Orleans.
4hero said:
groucho said:
DieselGriff said:
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Mondeohdear said:
- The more CO2 absorbed by the ocean the more acidic the ocean becomes, thus poisoning fish.
- The more the ice cap melts the higher the ocean levels become. Bye bye New Orleans.
Then again as antarctica is gaining ice mass at a rate of 27 billion tonnes per year, and as arctic ice mass change is nothing new (1817, 1922) wtf?
Then again as ice mass loss - as portrayed by ecoluminati - is total and utter junkscience, forget it.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/OllierPaine-NoIceS...
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