Climate Cat out of the Bag? Potentially dynamite revelations

[grumbledoak]

Satsuma Van said:

http://wp.me/p7y4l-3rF

'kin hell. I wonder where he was awarded his PhD. They must be stting bricks at the thought of their reputation.

[turbobloke]

pmanson said:

Just caught the end of the C5 news which said that China had signed up cut their C02 emissions.

That'll teach 'em to censor t'internet

[Ali G]

Still digesting all this stuff - the 'HARRY_READ_ME.TXT' looks pretty damaging to the MMGW camp.

If the CRU cannot even now replicate the data used, then how could it have ever stood up to independent scrutiny?

How could any of this have ever passed peer review?

[turbobloke]

grumbledoak said:

Satsuma Van said:

http://wp.me/p7y4l-3rF

They must be stting bricks at the thought of their reputation.

Up in smoke, what with all that carbon dioxide too



Don't forget: no warming in NZ for 100 years as reported yesterday by s2art
and no warming in USA and Canada for 100 years as added by myself:

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Critique Of NCAR Cherry Picking Temperature Record Study
Dr. Richard Keen, University of Colorado

Icecap Note: This is a follow-up to the posting now in Cold Storage below, on the NCAR Meehl etal study of record highs and lows that cherry-picked the starting year as 1950. Bruce Hall did an analysis and follow-up and Dr. Keen provided evidence from the western parts of the US and Canada. There were links also to WUWT, World Climate Report studies as well. Here below, Dr. Keen follows up his analysis expanding to all of the US and Canadian provinces and territories and shows there is no warming trend the last century.

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From s2art:

http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_c...

[grumbledoak]

Ali G said:

How could any of this have ever passed peer review?

I think the leaked emails tell us the truth- a small group have colluded to pass each other's papers.

[groucho]

B Oeuf said:

BJ, could you bung it on the email links I posted earlier......I have an appointment.

Anyone else feel we are watching the biggest scandal ever, slowly unravel while the BBC, goes nananana I can't hear you

Edited by B Oeuf on Thursday 26th November 14:23

I think it is possible.

[chris watton]

You know, I have a horrible feeling that this will blow over, no matter how weighty the evidence against MMGW is. Too much is at stake for the top players, including governments, most of whom evidentially have their knife at the throats of the MSM.

Quite ironic when you think about it, for years, environmentalists have never ceased to cry foul at any minuscule dissent against, immediately shouting them down – “they have vested interests, they’re in the pockets of big oil – well guess what enviros, you have fallen for the same trick, hook, line and sinker, allowing yourselves to be debased and do the bidding for people more powerful than ‘big oil’, and probably considerably richer, and more to gain than anyone. If you feel you are so helpless/useless that you willingly allow yourself to have virtually every aspect of your life controlled – what to eat, what to drive, what buy, then I do pity you.

I do, in all honesty, feel quite ashamed to be part of the human race, time and time again we allow our own prejudices to blind us from common sense and not see past our own noses.

[turbobloke]

chris watton said:

You know, I have a horrible feeling that this will blow over, no matter how weighty the evidence against MMGW is. Too much is at stake for the top players, including governments, most of whom evidentially have their knife at the throats of the MSM.

Look at the USA, where there is no equivalent to the BBC, then take heart.

It's seismic over there and the fallout will be far-reaching.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

B Oeuf said:

Mondeohdear said:

• The more CO2 absorbed by the ocean the more acidic the ocean becomes, thus poisoning fish.
• The more the ice cap melts the higher the ocean levels become. Bye bye New Orleans.

Which make syou wonder why we are not all wading knee deep in water judging by the apparent loss of ice

More CO2 in ocean means more 'food' for algae and plankton, so their numbers increase due to more food supply. Resulting in more food supply for fish, so the numbers that may die are balanced the increased number of survivors.

Nature will find a way

[srebbe64]

The poor guy known as Harry (HARRY_READ_ME.TXT) reminded me of someone but I couldn't think who. Then it dawned on me: Dennis - the character in charge of all the computers on the original Jurassic Park movie, he was:

Totally out of his depth
Confused
Given responsibility for the security of the entire island

[B Oeuf]

There has to be communications happening now beween the White House and No10 if the Senate are threatening UK scientists with investigation under the FoI act surely?

This is almost surreal, the biggest global scam of the century unfloding on the internet and the BBC are telling me about some fking kiddy fiddling priests asking for forgiveness,

[Ali G]

grumbledoak said:

Ali G said:

How could any of this have ever passed peer review?

I think the leaked emails tell us the truth- a small group have colluded to pass each other's papers.

[B Oeuf]

turbobloke said:

chris watton said:

You know, I have a horrible feeling that this will blow over, no matter how weighty the evidence against MMGW is. Too much is at stake for the top players, including governments, most of whom evidentially have their knife at the throats of the MSM.

Look at the USA, where there is no equivalent to the BBC, then take heart.

It's seismic over there and the fallout will be far-reaching.

I wonder what's left of our 'special relationship' now? we look a right bunch of s

[turbobloke]

A selection of Climategate impacts so far, for the evening shift.

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Australian parliament implodes

May scupper Obama's Cap and Trade

Taxpayers Alliance reports UEA CRU to OoIC

Call for independent public iquiry into MotleyCRU

Impending Legal Action against NASA GISS including Gavin Schmidt of RealClimate as 3 writs are issued

Trickery and slippery excuses recognised

[The Excession]

turbobloke said:

Aren't we? Wow

Then again as antarctica is gaining ice mass at a rate of 27 billion tonnes per year, and as arctic ice mass change is nothing new (1817, 1922) wtf?

Then again as ice mass loss - as portrayed by ecoluminati - is total and utter junkscience, forget it.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/OllierPaine-NoIceS...

And still no spots...

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar.html

[odyssey2200]

turbobloke said:

chris watton said:

You know, I have a horrible feeling that this will blow over, no matter how weighty the evidence against MMGW is. Too much is at stake for the top players, including governments, most of whom evidentially have their knife at the throats of the MSM.

Look at the USA, where there is no equivalent to the BBC, then take heart.

It's seismic over there and the fallout will be far-reaching.

GOD, I hope you are right!!!!

[grumbledoak]

of about 7,350,000 for climategate. (0.13 seconds)

Aunty Beeb might be spinning like Ludo, but around the world this is getting quite big.

[turbobloke]

The Excession said:

turbobloke said:

Aren't we? Wow

Then again as antarctica is gaining ice mass at a rate of 27 billion tonnes per year, and as arctic ice mass change is nothing new (1817, 1922) wtf?

Then again as ice mass loss - as portrayed by ecoluminati - is total and utter junkscience, forget it.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/OllierPaine-NoIceS...

And still no spots...

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar.html

Aye.

This url will give a current solar H-alpha image (weather permitting) 24/7

http://www.spacew.com/sunnow/

[FunkyGibbon]

Apologies if this been posted before - I don't remember seeing it, and I tried to search as well:

CRU Update

Statement from Professor Trevor Davies Pro-Vice-Chancellor Research said:

...
We have, therefore, decided to conduct an independent review, which will address the issue of data security, an assessment of how we responded to a deluge of Freedom of Information requests, and any other relevant issues which the independent reviewer advises should be addressed.

Wonder how far reaching the relevant issues will be?

Edited by FunkyGibbon on Thursday 26th November 19:54

[turbobloke]

It's been like this for a very long time. I have images on file stretching way back.