Amanda Knox

[V8mate]

Pothole said:

She's not all that is she?

WTF?

Her looks are fractional in the scheme of things. Did you not read my previous post commenting on your whining?

Here's a bird who gets off on threesomes which result in twosomes.

That is all that.

[7thCircleAcolyte]

Pothole said:

She's not all that is she?

Well, I've shagged worse looking women, and there are worse ways to die than being stabbed to death in a threesome

[Victor McDade]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13423074

Amanda Knox tried for slandering police

[Victor McDade]

Guam said:

Jeez if they started that here, half the Posters in SP and L would be banged up LOL

Essex police would make a fortune suing their critics

[Mr E Driver]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13965101

Am I alone in thinking there has been a huge miscarriage of justice and they have both been the victim of Italian police incompetence and both ave been set up?

[Welshbeef]

3 some frollics.
gone wrong
drugs
jealousy in the 3 some

can anyone honestly see a 3 some working out long term????as in 2 girls 1 bloke

[cheadle hulme]

Mr E Driver said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13965101

Am I alone in thinking there has been a huge miscarriage of justice and they have both been the victim of Italian police incompetence and both ave been set up?

The evidence heard today was certainly interesting. I believe some independent experts confirmed that it was "highly likely" that the DNA evidence was contaminated.

[turbobloke]

cheadle hulme said:

Mr E Driver said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13965101

Am I alone in thinking there has been a huge miscarriage of justice and they have both been the victim of Italian police incompetence and both ave been set up?

The evidence heard today was certainly interesting. I believe some independent experts confirmed that it was "highly likely" that the DNA evidence was contaminated.

There's a lot of blind faith on DNA evidence such that it has almost magical powers in Court, the truth is something else. Those who are responsible for determining cases, juries or judiciary, need educating prior to deliberating.

[DJRC]

turbobloke said:

There's a lot of blind faith on DNA evidence such that it has almost magical powers in Court, the truth is something else. Those who are responsible for determining cases, juries or judiciary, need educating prior to deliberating.

Like what you have been?

[Corsair7]

turbobloke said:

There's a lot of blind faith on DNA evidence such that it has almost magical powers in Court, the truth is something else. Those who are responsible for determining cases, juries or judiciary, need educating prior to deliberating.

I agree. Seems the presence of DNA is becoming 'proof' that all the other evidence is correct in the juries mind. No need (for the jury) to worry about the other stuff, positive DNA prooves everything else, almost undeniable.

[turbobloke]

DJRC said:

turbobloke said:

There's a lot of blind faith on DNA evidence such that it has almost magical powers in Court, the truth is something else. Those who are responsible for determining cases, juries or judiciary, need educating prior to deliberating.

Like what you have been?

Like what did you mean?

[DJRC]

turbobloke said:

Like what did you mean?

Well Im presuming with your statement above that you have been well versed in the latest and greatest knowledge with regards to DNA.

[turbobloke]

DJRC said:

turbobloke said:

Like what did you mean?

Well Im presuming with your statement above that you have been well versed in the latest and greatest knowledge with regards to DNA.

Versed enough for my purposes, I've used the technique in a past life, the context was both forensic and commercial in nature. The work I did went beyond nucleic acid contexts to cover other macromolecule fragments, and species other than humans.

As to the latest knowledge, it's not been part of my professional repertoire for a number of years as my career took a change of direction but I do make an effort to keep up - so I'd like to think I'm reasonably abreast of developments rather than a tit, but titness is relative just like greatness of knowledge.

HTH.

[Use Psychology]

DJRC said:

Like what you have been?

for god's sake, the techniques they use for DNA detection are so powerful - few MOLECULES of DNA on an object can be detected and sequenced/matched with someone... contamination is so incredibly likely that you can't use a DNA match on an object as reliable evidence.

[turbobloke]

Use Psychology said:

DJRC said:

Like what you have been?

for god's sake, the techniques they use for DNA detection are so powerful - few MOLECULES of DNA on an object can be detected and sequenced/matched with someone... contamination is so incredibly likely that you can't use a DNA match on an object as reliable evidence.

Having already answered DJRC's question one way and following the tack of your post, I'd add that the kind of information needed to place DNA evidence in its proper context includes aspects of the science but also those that are easier to get a grip on, such as lab procedures and human nature, as well as applied arithmetic. Some of which you rightly pointed out.

DNA evidence doesn't often sit alone and taken with other information the weight attached to it can increase but it's still an area of concern with people who have seen too much CSI (LV, M, NY).

One undeniable benefit of DNA evidence is its potential ability to reveal miscarriages of justice, where individuals have been wrongly convicted.

[youngsyr]

Appeal verdict expected this evening.

Still can't figure out whether she's even likely to have done it or not, there's just so much conflicting information.

[mattviatura]

Either way let's just hope there's a prison video coming soon.

[Nom de ploom]

I'm no expert in the italian judicial system, I expect it has its flaws like many others but from what I've seen and heard there seems to be a reasonable amount of doubt about the main piece of prosecution evidence.

if that is enough to quash the conviction then imho it should be.

I also read that if either acquitted or convicted there could yet be 1 more appeal?!!

I just hope justice is done. I think personally it would take a fair amount of convincing evidence to suggest a young woman could do this crime...

call me idealistic...I know crimes of passion etc etc happen..

[Use Psychology]

i don't understand how three people, tried separately, can all be guilty.

[youngsyr]

Use Psychology said:

i don't understand how three people, tried separately, can all be guilty.

Group sex game gone wrong/with an unwilling participant, is how I understand the prosecution's case explains it.

More info here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/15036490

There's circumstantial evidence and her inconsistent alibi and behaviour that point towards here having been involved, but for me that's all they do.

There certainly is a reasonable doubt to my mind, but I don't think it's as clear cut as the American media are making it out to be.