Amanda Knox

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Puggit

48,474 posts

249 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Both acquitted...

toasty

7,484 posts

221 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Puggit said:
Both acquitted...
...until the next appeal by the prosecution rolleyes

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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ash73 said:
Damn irked
Eh?

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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toasty said:
...until the next appeal by the prosecution rolleyes
Will there be though?

They were acquitted by the highest court in Italy, other than the European Court of Justice i can't see them going any further and with what evidence? The evidence that already had them freed then acquitted

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Nickyboy said:
toasty said:
...until the next appeal by the prosecution rolleyes
Will there be though?

They were acquitted by the highest court in Italy, other than the European Court of Justice i can't see them going any further and with what evidence? The evidence that already had them freed then acquitted
No, there is no appeal or retrial, that's it - they've been acquitted for good.

It's the right decision in my mind too - there's more than a reasonable doubt that they were involved.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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I'm not sure how anyone can be sure either way now.

Its made a bit of a farce of the whole Italian legal system.

I used to tend towards thinking she was involved, but now would be reluctant to express a view.

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

133 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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"She is attractive and I want to have sex with her so she must be innocent"

/paraphrase



Edited by Martin4x4 on Saturday 28th March 14:11

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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ash73 said:
youngsyr said:
there's more than a reasonable doubt that they were involved.
I don't agree, but it's a moot point. Can't win them all I guess.
Go on then, if you're sure she did it, why don't you walk us through the events of that night and how she, Sollecito and Guede carried out the murder and clean up?

I would suggest that the only people who cannot see even a single reasonable doubt that she was involved in the murder haven't read into the case.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Martin4x4 said:
"She is attractive and I want to have sex with here so she must be innocent"

/paraphrase
Who is that aimed at? confused

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Martin4x4 said:
"She is attractive and I want to have sex with here so she must be innocent"
Some truth there, in how judgement is reached at all levels.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Mermaid said:
Martin4x4 said:
"She is attractive and I want to have sex with here so she must be innocent"
Some truth there, in how judgement is reached at all levels.
Not really, the prosecution's case was that Knox killed Kercher as part of a sex game gone wrong - I suspect that would have held even less water if Knox was a weapons grade munter.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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When you have sex games (that go right or wrong) you'd expect to leave some traces of your DNA. There was only one person's DNA at the the murder scene, Rudi Guede's. So if that is the basis of the prosecution then it will always fall down trying to prove that Sollecito and Knox were also involved.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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The conviction was unsafe. The time it's taken to reach that conclusion is a farce. 7 years of her 20s, including 4 in prison.




Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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toasty said:
Puggit said:
Both acquitted...
...until the next appeal by the prosecution rolleyes
It won't be appealed. It's over, done and dusted

HIS LM

1,291 posts

260 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
When you have sex games (that go right or wrong) you'd expect to leave some traces of your DNA. There was only one person's DNA at the the murder scene, Rudi Guede's. So if that is the basis of the prosecution then it will always fall down trying to prove that Sollecito and Knox were also involved.
Only one persons DNA at the scene is not true - Rafael's DNA was found on Meredith's bra clasp allegedly

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Mermaid said:
Some truth there, in how judgement is reached at all levels.
Yep - the weirder looking somebody is - the more willing people are to believe they are a wrongun (as evidenced by Christopher Jeffries).

bitchstewie

51,371 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Martin4x4 said:
"She is attractive and I want to have sex with her so she must be innocent"

/paraphrase
On the flip side there is often an assumption that anyone British (I know Knox is American) charged or found guilty of a crime overseas is being stitched up by some dodgy corrupt tin pot regime.

Blib

44,183 posts

198 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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On hearing this news, Mrs Blib, who is a lawyer, told me about the time an Italian judge asked her for a bribe to settle the case in her firm's favour.

She declined.

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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HIS LM said:
FourWheelDrift said:
When you have sex games (that go right or wrong) you'd expect to leave some traces of your DNA. There was only one person's DNA at the the murder scene, Rudi Guede's. So if that is the basis of the prosecution then it will always fall down trying to prove that Sollecito and Knox were also involved.
Only one persons DNA at the scene is not true - Rafael's DNA was found on Meredith's bra clasp allegedly
After the clasp had lain and been scraped around in the abandoned flat for more than forty days whilst forensic officers, who were also gathering evidence from Sollecito and Knox, traipsed in and out.

The possibility of cross contamination was far too great and the DNA too degraded to be used or admissible as evidence. There was also the issue that it was found solely on the clasp and not on the cloth of the bra. This is inexplicable any other way than as cross contamination.

Their convictions were unsafe. The Italian justice system works - but the initial investigation must have left a lot to be desired. This is a shame as a poor British lass lost her life and her family will always feel that there has not been a full and proper explanation of her death. However they can, at least, take some very small measure of comfort in the fact that the bloke who definitely did it, and they have proof that he did, is banged up in jail.

HIS LM

1,291 posts

260 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Did the prosecution ever get to the bottom of why Knox was allegedly buying cleaning materials very early on a Sunday morning and why Rafael's knives were scrubbed spotlessly clean and why when arrested Knox implicated the bar owner Lamumba and why the glass was on the floor after the break in but not on the clothes

Sadly Rudy will never be a credible witness even when after his release he tells his version as I feel sure he will

The Kercher family have remained dignified throughout this bungled process I wonder how they really feel ?