Televised Leaders Debates..
Discussion
Holy thread resurrection and all that but the election debates for next year are now being planned. The proposals are for a debate with just Cameron and Miliband, another one which would include Clegg and a third which would also include Farage.
Cameron says it's unacceptable to have Farage and not the Greens, the SNP etc. Then latter two have threatened legal action if they are excluded. The Lib Dems say they won't accept being excluded from any debates. Labour say that the proposed format is okay for them.
So what would be the best way to do it?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/13/nigel...
Cameron says it's unacceptable to have Farage and not the Greens, the SNP etc. Then latter two have threatened legal action if they are excluded. The Lib Dems say they won't accept being excluded from any debates. Labour say that the proposed format is okay for them.
So what would be the best way to do it?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/13/nigel...
BlackLabel said:
Holy thread resurrection and all that but the election debates for next year are now being planned. The proposals are for a debate with just Cameron and Miliband, another one which would include Clegg and a third which would also include Farage.
Cameron says it's unacceptable to have Farage and not the Greens, the SNP etc. Then latter two have threatened legal action if they are excluded. The Lib Dems say they won't accept being excluded from any debates. Labour say that the proposed format is okay for them.
So what would be the best way to do it?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/13/nigel...
Probably some formula based on vote share and number of MPs would be most appropriate. On that basis UKIP have more right to be there than Greens etc.Cameron says it's unacceptable to have Farage and not the Greens, the SNP etc. Then latter two have threatened legal action if they are excluded. The Lib Dems say they won't accept being excluded from any debates. Labour say that the proposed format is okay for them.
So what would be the best way to do it?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/13/nigel...
guardian said:
Ofcom, the broadcast regulator, has declared that the Green party does not have sufficient support to qualify for “major party status” in the general election, but Ukip may have.
Its initial decision makes the Green party’s case to be included in the TV leader election debates much harder to press successfully, although the Greens have until early February to make their case prior to a final decision in early March. It is also harder to mount a successful legal challenge to the broadcasters if they persist in excluding the Greens.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/08/ofcom-blow-green-party-election-debate-boost-ukipsIts initial decision makes the Green party’s case to be included in the TV leader election debates much harder to press successfully, although the Greens have until early February to make their case prior to a final decision in early March. It is also harder to mount a successful legal challenge to the broadcasters if they persist in excluding the Greens.
David Cameron will refuse TV debates if Greens excluded
CMD either really cares about the Greens and democracy in general hence his demand, or he's running scared over the debates because he thinks it will lose him votes. Mmmm wonder which one it is.
Edited by BlackLabel on Thursday 8th January 18:11
V8 Fettler said:
Voting decisions should be based on policies...
Policies are not policies though, they are electioneering tools written by spin doctors/strategists which will be wormed out of at will. The day manifestos become legally binding is the day that you can vote on policy alone.
BlackLabel said:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/08/of...
David Cameron will refuse TV debates if Greens excluded
CMD either really cares about the Greens and democracy in general hence his demand, or he's running scared over the debates because he thinks it will lose him votes. Mmmm wonder which one it is.
He wants them all called off so he doesn't have to face Farage. David Cameron will refuse TV debates if Greens excluded
CMD either really cares about the Greens and democracy in general hence his demand, or he's running scared over the debates because he thinks it will lose him votes. Mmmm wonder which one it is.
Edited by BlackLabel on Thursday 8th January 18:11
He's got a point. Let's face it, they were s
t last time, and they'll be st this time. It's not a debate, but rather an opportunity to recite their manifestos and ignore the questions of the other leaders.
Cameron will want the stage packed with lefties to savage UKIP. In that situation he'll look like the sensible moderate, and can sit back and wait for everyone else to fight to a standstill.
t last time, and they'll be st this time. It's not a debate, but rather an opportunity to recite their manifestos and ignore the questions of the other leaders. Cameron will want the stage packed with lefties to savage UKIP. In that situation he'll look like the sensible moderate, and can sit back and wait for everyone else to fight to a standstill.
Cameron interviewed on 'BBC North West Tonight'.
Aside from the Greens issue, he also revealed his aim to push for the leaders debates to be brought forward much earlier- in his words:
Can't blame Cameron for being chicken after seeing what Farage did to Clegg
Aside from the Greens issue, he also revealed his aim to push for the leaders debates to be brought forward much earlier- in his words:
Cameron said:
It would be good to do these debates before the election campaign proper...
Shows how much he is worried of slipping up, as they are supposed to occur in April, so close to the election campaign end. Can't blame Cameron for being chicken after seeing what Farage did to Clegg
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