Volcanic ash closing Scottish airports

Volcanic ash closing Scottish airports

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Fume troll

4,389 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Targarama said:
mrmr96 said:
Matt Evans said:
Puggit said:
The skies in the South are totally clear.
They will be whilst you're stood on the ground. Get 40,000 feet up and it's a different matter.
If the sky is blue and I can see the sun then presumably I'd also be able to see a big cloud of ash, no matter how high it is? I mean, I can see aeroplanes and the ash is about that high, non? I'm clearly missing something.
The ash becomes dispersed so you can't see it so far up there, but it is still plenty thick enough to cause potentially nasty problems to jet engines.
I'm still not convinced, this is nothing like the Flight 9 situation, the cloud is far more dispersed than that. Hopefully they'll stick a Nimrod up (expendable engines, now) and come back with some jars full of nothing, and we can all go back to normal.

Cheers,

FT.


louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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We've just had some work done in the house, leading to massive amounts of fine dust everywhere that will take the whole weekend to clean up.

Does this ash cloud mean I'm going to have to clean the entire outside as well?

Brilliant.

Big Rod

6,200 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Meant to be flying BRI - EDI tomorrow night.

Fingers crossed.

Fortunately I have a car so I can drive home if need be, but I'm not fancying 400 miles on Friday night closely followed by another 400 on Sunday night/Monday morning.

The roads are likely to be an absolute 'mare too though!! :-/

MikeO996

2,008 posts

225 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Lastinclass said:
My office is very quiet today when I look out the window!
We overlook Aberdeen airfield and the difference in noise levels is amazing. We normally have helicopters coming in over our building setting off car alarms in the car park regularly and depending on wind direction fixed wing planes taking off or landing within a couple of hundered metres of my window.
On the other side we have a car rental office and the phone is going mental with extensions as people can't get away and one way requests with people trying to get home.
What's the sky looking like in Aberdeen?

Whether or not this is a catastrophe building all that stuff's gotta come down somewhere - probably on Saturday when I'm driving my new car home from the dealers frown

Yelly

306 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Fume troll said:
Paranoia I reckon. I watched a program about British Airways Flight 9, and once they glided out of the ash cloud having lost all the engines, they were able to restart all four of them. Although one stopped again a bit later on. And the windscreen was sandblasted to a nice privacy glass finish. Anyway, it was fine.
Fine you say? Lol. You wouldn't see me on that 'plane (unless I got on by mistake, and I would then be freaking out more than BA Baracus)

emicen

8,600 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Fume troll said:
Targarama said:
mrmr96 said:
Matt Evans said:
Puggit said:
The skies in the South are totally clear.
They will be whilst you're stood on the ground. Get 40,000 feet up and it's a different matter.
If the sky is blue and I can see the sun then presumably I'd also be able to see a big cloud of ash, no matter how high it is? I mean, I can see aeroplanes and the ash is about that high, non? I'm clearly missing something.
The ash becomes dispersed so you can't see it so far up there, but it is still plenty thick enough to cause potentially nasty problems to jet engines.
I'm still not convinced, this is nothing like the Flight 9 situation, the cloud is far more dispersed than that. Hopefully they'll stick a Nimrod up (expendable engines, now) and come back with some jars full of nothing, and we can all go back to normal.

Cheers,

FT.
I may be missing something but why would you dispatch a marine reconnaisance aircraft to do atmospheric research?

twinturboz

1,278 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Lastinclass

511 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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MikeO996 said:
Lastinclass said:
My office is very quiet today when I look out the window!
We overlook Aberdeen airfield and the difference in noise levels is amazing. We normally have helicopters coming in over our building setting off car alarms in the car park regularly and depending on wind direction fixed wing planes taking off or landing within a couple of hundered metres of my window.
On the other side we have a car rental office and the phone is going mental with extensions as people can't get away and one way requests with people trying to get home.
What's the sky looking like in Aberdeen?

Whether or not this is a catastrophe building all that stuff's gotta come down somewhere - probably on Saturday when I'm driving my new car home from the dealers frown
Looks like a standard Aberdeen sky - grey and dull!!!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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twinturboz said:
Real time flight map.

http://www.radarvirtuel.com
That's very cool...

danrc

2,751 posts

211 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Lastinclass said:
MikeO996 said:
Lastinclass said:
My office is very quiet today when I look out the window!
We overlook Aberdeen airfield and the difference in noise levels is amazing. We normally have helicopters coming in over our building setting off car alarms in the car park regularly and depending on wind direction fixed wing planes taking off or landing within a couple of hundered metres of my window.
On the other side we have a car rental office and the phone is going mental with extensions as people can't get away and one way requests with people trying to get home.
What's the sky looking like in Aberdeen?

Whether or not this is a catastrophe building all that stuff's gotta come down somewhere - probably on Saturday when I'm driving my new car home from the dealers frown
Looks like a standard Aberdeen sky - grey and dull!!!


The view from my office. No different to any other day!

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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The real Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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bloody Icelandic volcanic ash, coming over here and closing all our airports

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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shouldbworking said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Fligh...

worth a read if you fancy finding out why the airports have to close smile
What a fantastic article. The professionalism of the crew shines through.

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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The real Apache said:
bloody Icelandic volcanic ash, coming over here and closing all our airports
The BNP will be straight onto this.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Parrot of Doom said:
shouldbworking said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Fligh...

worth a read if you fancy finding out why the airports have to close smile
What a fantastic article. The professionalism of the crew shines through.
My thoughts as well.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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so how much CO2 does a volcano put out ?

and will the owning country have to pay their way with C02 credits ?

its only fair isnt it lol

The Excession

11,669 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Parrot of Doom said:
shouldbworking said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Fligh...

worth a read if you fancy finding out why the airports have to close smile
What a fantastic article. The professionalism of the crew shines through.
Indeed, worrying though that aircraft got into trouble in the area even 19 days later. Can you imagine having to close UK air space for such a long time!

Edited by The Excession on Thursday 15th April 11:49

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Balmoral Green said:
The elephant in the room over this story is that it could last for 2 days, but it could be weeks, months or even years. This is not getting mentioned, probably because the media/government daren't mention it, the consequences could be catastrophic
Expert on BBC News just now said the volcano could be erupting for 18 months eek

Part of the issue no doubt is that the winds are blowing the smoke in this direction, and it could affect us less as the winds move about. The jetstream forecasts seem pretty consistent from today until Tuesday though ...


Edited by john_p on Thursday 15th April 11:49

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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the anwer is so obvious, get 4 pairs of tights, stretch them over the engine intakes, off you go.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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BliarOut said:
It is far better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than it is to be in the air and praying you make it back to the ground.
You always make it back to the ground.