CGT increasing from 18% to 40% to fund lower paid people

CGT increasing from 18% to 40% to fund lower paid people

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amir_j

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3,579 posts

201 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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The Lib Dems Robin Hood policy accepted by the tories...would rather it be used for reducing debt- bizarre.


The 18 per cent rate of tax on gains on non-business assets will be increased to close to the 40 per cent higher rate of income tax, meeting a central plank of Lib Dem policy, according to Tory insiders. There will be “generous exemptions” for profits related to business, in a bid to offset concerns about the potential chilling effect of the tax increase on entrepreneurs.

The revenue from the tax rise will be used to help fund a significant increase in the income tax threshold to help lower-paid people, taking effect in April. The new government, with George Osborne as chancellor, will also agree to subsequent real terms increases in this threshold, as part of a longer term goal of meeting the £17bn Lib Dem policy of raising the income tax exemption to £10,000.

from the Financial Times

t11ner

5,283 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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and they've agreed to drop plans to increase the inheritance tax threshold to £1m.

Makes me glad I voted Tory rolleyes

Eric Mc

122,018 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Basicially putting CGT partly back to where it was before 5 April 2008. But will they be introducing any sort of "aging" formula, such as Indexation or Taper Relief?

The mini-budget in a few week's time will be very interesting.

M400 NBL

3,529 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.

I'm decorating a place that I WAS going to rent out again... so I will be keeping an eye on this thread.

I'll check out taxationweb later when I get a chance.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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All the reasons people voted for them have now gone out of the window , so a party manifesto is worth nothing

Eric Mc

122,018 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Lost soul said:
All the reasons people voted for them have now gone out of the window , so a party manifesto is worth nothing
Did you think any election manifesto was ever worth anything?

In this situation, both parties have to compronise to move forward. Otherwise, the country descends into chaos and uncertainty - and all that entails.

amir_j

Original Poster:

3,579 posts

201 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Lost soul said:
All the reasons people voted for them have now gone out of the window , so a party manifesto is worth nothing
Did you think any election manifesto was ever worth anything?

In this situation, both parties have to compronise to move forward. Otherwise, the country descends into chaos and uncertainty - and all that entails.
+1, the people voted that way and the tories had to work with what they had. Even today met a guy who voted Labour and has no idea how much debt there is.

amir_j

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3,579 posts

201 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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M400 NBL said:
a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
Lets hope this does happen!

Aiten

540 posts

190 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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amir_j said:
M400 NBL said:
a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
Lets hope this does happen!
This! Out of purely selfish reasons mind you.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Basicially putting CGT partly back to where it was before 5 April 2008. But will they be introducing any sort of "aging" formula, such as Indexation or Taper Relief?

The mini-budget in a few week's time will be very interesting.
Will you post up your analysis, please, Eric? When the time comes...

cs02rm0

13,812 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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M400 NBL said:
If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
I certainly hope so!

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Don said:
Eric Mc said:
Basicially putting CGT partly back to where it was before 5 April 2008. But will they be introducing any sort of "aging" formula, such as Indexation or Taper Relief?

The mini-budget in a few week's time will be very interesting.
Will you post up your analysis, please, Eric? When the time comes...
Honestly don't think Eric knows anything about accountancy, as he spends all him time at work thumbing through Janes all the world's. smile

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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cs02rm0 said:
M400 NBL said:
If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
I certainly hope so!
yes

M400 NBL

3,529 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Balls, I didn't get a chance to get onto taxationweb... and now i'm leaving work to decorate the place I may or may not rent out again smile

Akers

463 posts

235 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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TheCarpetCleaner said:
cs02rm0 said:
M400 NBL said:
If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
I certainly hope so!
yes
Would someone be so kind as to explain why this would be beneficial to the country as a whole?
Surely a sudden increase in the number of properties on the market would result in a rapid fall in house prices, thereby putting many home owners into negative equity?
Or is your hope purely a selfish one? wink

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Since CGT has only been as low as 18% for about 10 minutes I can't see any reason to complain about it going back up to 40%.

And it's more likely that capital gains will be combined with income again so the top rate will actually be 50%

JagLover

42,402 posts

235 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Basicially putting CGT partly back to where it was before 5 April 2008.
Agreed

It seems to me to be a nonsense to tax income at 40/50 % and CGT at 18%.

Index the gain by all means but tax it the same as income.

rypt

2,548 posts

190 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Akers said:
TheCarpetCleaner said:
cs02rm0 said:
M400 NBL said:
If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
I certainly hope so!
yes
Would someone be so kind as to explain why this would be beneficial to the country as a whole?
Surely a sudden increase in the number of properties on the market would result in a rapid fall in house prices, thereby putting many home owners into negative equity?
Or is your hope purely a selfish one? wink
Because house prices in this country are stupidly highly and need to fall

cs02rm0

13,812 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Akers said:
TheCarpetCleaner said:
cs02rm0 said:
M400 NBL said:
If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
I certainly hope so!
yes
Would someone be so kind as to explain why this would be beneficial to the country as a whole?
Surely a sudden increase in the number of properties on the market would result in a rapid fall in house prices, thereby putting many home owners into negative equity?
Or is your hope purely a selfish one? wink
I think there's beginning to be an entire generation that aren't able to climb onto the property market. I see that as a bigger national problem than people maintaining value in homes that they don't live in.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

242 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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cs02rm0 said:
Akers said:
TheCarpetCleaner said:
cs02rm0 said:
M400 NBL said:
If this happens and there is no taper relief, a lot of landlords will be tempted to sell up.
I certainly hope so!
yes
Would someone be so kind as to explain why this would be beneficial to the country as a whole?
Surely a sudden increase in the number of properties on the market would result in a rapid fall in house prices, thereby putting many home owners into negative equity?
Or is your hope purely a selfish one? wink
I think there's beginning to be an entire generation that aren't able to climb onto the property market. I see that as a bigger national problem than people maintaining value in homes that they don't live in.
And then people won't need such high wages to pay preposterous mortgage meaning that UK can become more competitive.