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Lost_BMW
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45 months
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MX7 said: Halb said: Being a singer, author, professional sportsman, actor is as valid as any of the other professions you name. So you'd be as happy with John Terry as you would with Andrew Rawnsley? I'm not saying that all footballers would be a wasted seat, or that all authors would be an education, but I don't watch QT to listen to a bunch of complete drivel. Halb said: Some journalists are 'celebs'. Has there been any 'celeb' on QT who hasn't got a worthwhile career and something to say about some subject? Watch Will Young in 2009. 'Out of his depth' is complimentary. Young did well on QT - better prepared and more cogent than some of the pros, and I admit that even though he is politically opposite to how I feel; fair is fair. The chair of the PFA, Clarke Carlisle, has also been very good, footballer or not! I'm not 'into' stars and despise this modern celeb obsessed culture but one or two have held their own and I don't honestly see why authors or journalists should have more of a right to appear than actors et al, even if they might be expected to have more insight to offer. It should be the producers job to vet/pick on the basis of likely contribution not just on grounds of what their name/fame is. Lydon can only have been brought on for potential shock or fun value.
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Justin Cyder
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18 months
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I suspect with Lydon, the BBC were caught out to a degree they didn't expect. I was watching it from the perspective of a wedding guest listening to the best man's speech - I wanted him to be good, alas...
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whoami
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109 months
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Justin Cyder said: I suspect with Lydon, the BBC were caught out to a degree they didn't expect. I was watching it from the perspective of a wedding guest listening to the best man's speech - I wanted him to be good, alas... He was the same as he always is. What do you think they were expecting?
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Justin Cyder
6,143 posts
18 months
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You must know him better than I. Let me turn it around - did you think he would alienate the audience as well as the panel? The clue about my personal expectations is contained in the previous sentence.
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MX7
6,598 posts
43 months
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Lost_BMW said: Lydon can only have been brought on for potential shock or fun value. I agree, and I think that's a stupid mistake. It's obviously subjective, so I'll leave you with a few comments that I've read today. Guardian. Guardian said: John Lydon fails to bring anarchy to Question Time.
Lydon was not the first failed reality television star to appear on Question Time – George Galloway was on only a few months ago – but his appearance showed the limitations of inviting rock stars who know more about playing to the crowd than marshalling facts. "I'm just a bystander who knows nothing," he said at the start of one answer, which didn't inspire huge confidence in the rest of his contribution. TelegraphTelegraph said: Why did the BBC allow Johnny Rotten to play the pub bore on Question Time last night?
Not only did Rotten bore on. He couldn't bear anyone else to speak. He interrupted almost every contribution to make some asinine point, and drag the attention back to himself. He even interrupted a questioner from the audience, who cried out "John I love ya but will ya let me finish?" Even the unflappable David Dimbleby looked positively cross by this stage, but nothing and no one could stop the motormouth.
I blame the BBC populist agenda: because Rotten paraded his "man of the people" credentials – "I'm a solid working class boy" – the former bad boy of rock automatically earned a place at the BBC table. I wouldn't mind if they welcomed him behind the scenes, into their production teams, as a "consultant" on street slang or drug dealers' habits. But I don't think they should impose his ranting and raving on us. If I want to listen to someone shoot off their mouth and monopolise a debate, I can go round the corner: there, at least, my money gets me a pint of lager. My television licence fee, though, gets me the bore without the beer.
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whoami
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MX7 said: Lost_BMW said: Lydon can only have been brought on for potential shock or fun value. I agree, and I think that's a stupid mistake. It's obviously subjective, so I'll leave you with a few comments that I've read today. Guardian. Guardian said: John Lydon fails to bring anarchy to Question Time.
Lydon was not the first failed reality television star to appear on Question Time – George Galloway was on only a few months ago – but his appearance showed the limitations of inviting rock stars who know more about playing to the crowd than marshalling facts. "I'm just a bystander who knows nothing," he said at the start of one answer, which didn't inspire huge confidence in the rest of his contribution. TelegraphTelegraph said: Why did the BBC allow Johnny Rotten to play the pub bore on Question Time last night?
Not only did Rotten bore on. He couldn't bear anyone else to speak. He interrupted almost every contribution to make some asinine point, and drag the attention back to himself. He even interrupted a questioner from the audience, who cried out "John I love ya but will ya let me finish?" Even the unflappable David Dimbleby looked positively cross by this stage, but nothing and no one could stop the motormouth.
I blame the BBC populist agenda: because Rotten paraded his "man of the people" credentials – "I'm a solid working class boy" – the former bad boy of rock automatically earned a place at the BBC table. I wouldn't mind if they welcomed him behind the scenes, into their production teams, as a "consultant" on street slang or drug dealers' habits. But I don't think they should impose his ranting and raving on us. If I want to listen to someone shoot off their mouth and monopolise a debate, I can go round the corner: there, at least, my money gets me a pint of lager. My television licence fee, though, gets me the bore without the beer. The Telegraph quote you posted sums it up well.
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Puggit
29,516 posts
117 months
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muffinmenace
639 posts
57 months
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Puggit said: Not quite as they make out either, this thread is just a figment of our imaginations 
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Laurel Green
14,894 posts
101 months
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Heads up - only a week to go; BBC said: Next on
27/09/2012
Panellists include Harriet Harman, Danny Alexander, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Steve Coogan. Drat! Thought it tonight that the programme restarted.
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Paddy_N_Murphy
15,152 posts
53 months
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BBC said: Next on
27/09/2012
Panellists include Harriet Harman, Danny Alexander, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Steve Coogan. With that line up, thank f  k I am away. I like my TV, and don't want to put a boot through it !
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Lost_BMW
10,648 posts
45 months
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Laurel Green said: Heads up - only a week to go; BBC said: Next on
27/09/2012
Panellists include Harriet Harman, aaargh, Danny Alexander, aaargh, Jacob Rees-Mogg mmnn..? and Steve Coogan aaaaarrrrgghh! Drat! Thought it tonight that the programme restarted.
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Laurel Green
14,894 posts
101 months
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Lost_BMW said: aaaaarrrrgghh! Needs a tad more phlegm and spittle in there.
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Lost_BMW
10,648 posts
45 months
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Laurel Green said: Lost_BMW said: aaaaarrrrgghh! Needs a tad more phlegm and spittle in there. I'm busy polishing my voodoo doll right now - watch for any twinges he shows.
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southendpier
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98 months
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Lost_BMW
10,648 posts
45 months
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southendpier said: aaaaaarghh ha!
surely? Very good! 
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Laurel Green
14,894 posts
101 months
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Halb
17,864 posts
52 months
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Nice arena.
I like the song lead in as well.
Alexander needs to see a personal trainer.
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Lost_BMW
10,648 posts
45 months
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Angry already!
Not really, just warming up!
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Halb
17,864 posts
52 months
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Easy now!
DA looks like a slug.
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Lost_BMW
10,648 posts
45 months
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Halb said: Nice arena.
I like the song lead in as well.
Alexander needs to see a personal trainer. I've heard of hamster jowls... but do you think he's harbouring a couple down there?
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