Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!
Discussion
simoid said:
0a said:
A good first question, but an answer that ignores why people vote for UKIP. She simply cannot understand how people are impacted by unlimited immigration for a start. An illustration as to why the main parties are losing votes.
I'm not sure many people understand how we are impacted (positively and negatively) by unlimited immigration tbh.simoid said:
0a said:
A good first question, but an answer that ignores why people vote for UKIP. She simply cannot understand how people are impacted by unlimited immigration for a start. An illustration as to why the main parties are losing votes.
I'm not sure many people understand how we are impacted (positively and negatively) by unlimited immigration tbh.Edited by CAPP0 on Thursday 9th October 23:09
0a said:
Immigration should and can be a good thing. Entirely unlimited immigration impacts those at the bottom in a highly negative way, and admitting this is an important thing.
Indeed. I'm not even sure we know how much immigration we've had at the various demographic categories, do we?A right carry on.
simoid said:
Indeed. I'm not even sure we know how much immigration we've had at the various demographic categories, do we?
A right carry on.
How can anyone have the foggiest idea of the numbers?A right carry on.
There's been a de facto open door policy through Dover/Eurotunnel for long enough.
Before the Polly Toynbee fans chirp in here, this could have been nipped in the bud long ago given the political will.
We are ruled by a team of no-mark chancers, the British people will only wake up and realise this when it's too late.
A political fait accompli indeed.
"Once we've balanced our books we'll find more money for the NHS".
Errmmmm.
Once we've balanced our books we'd be better off finding another slug of money in cuts to actually start chipping away at the trillion £ National Debt we have. Then, when that's paid off, maybe we can look to spend the extra we have on something nice!
If we shave another 25bn off our expenditure it'd only take 40yrs to pay that off.
Errmmmm.
Once we've balanced our books we'd be better off finding another slug of money in cuts to actually start chipping away at the trillion £ National Debt we have. Then, when that's paid off, maybe we can look to spend the extra we have on something nice!
If we shave another 25bn off our expenditure it'd only take 40yrs to pay that off.
I'm incredibly unfashionable in thinking that ring fencing NHS funding just makes it less efficient. Improve management, tighten budgets, and introduce charges for missing appointments or being drunk (for those that can pay) and we can have a better service for less.
I have never worked for an organisation with an ever growing budget that doesn't become ever more inefficient and expensive.
I have never worked for an organisation with an ever growing budget that doesn't become ever more inefficient and expensive.
0a said:
"There's nothing free about private, it makes profit"
- an argument for the state to ban the private sector entirely. Stunning. I look forward to our state run shops, supermarkets, car companies, phone companies.
She got away with it as well as Pickles is an idiot!
Every bit of kit, furniture, medicine, foodstuffs, clothing, lightbulbs etc etc in the NHS makes someone profit. - an argument for the state to ban the private sector entirely. Stunning. I look forward to our state run shops, supermarkets, car companies, phone companies.
She got away with it as well as Pickles is an idiot!
The woman is an imbecile.
Justayellowbadge said:
0a said:
"There's nothing free about private, it makes profit"
- an argument for the state to ban the private sector entirely. Stunning. I look forward to our state run shops, supermarkets, car companies, phone companies.
She got away with it as well as Pickles is an idiot!
Every bit of kit, furniture, medicine, foodstuffs, clothing, lightbulbs etc etc in the NHS makes someone profit. - an argument for the state to ban the private sector entirely. Stunning. I look forward to our state run shops, supermarkets, car companies, phone companies.
She got away with it as well as Pickles is an idiot!
The woman is an imbecile.
It's an ideological position, with no consideration as to reality.
Justayellowbadge said:
Every bit of kit, furniture, medicine, foodstuffs, clothing, lightbulbs etc etc in the NHS makes someone profit.
The woman is an imbecile.
Yeah but come the revolution, everything will be made by public sector workers (the private sector won't exist).The woman is an imbecile.
Tractor production will be through the roof.
0a said:
I'm incredibly unfashionable in thinking that ring fencing NHS funding just makes it less efficient. Improve management, tighten budgets, and introduce charges for missing appointments or being drunk (for those that can pay) and we can have a better service for less.
I have never worked for an organisation with an ever growing budget that doesn't become ever more inefficient and expensive.
Totally agree. Ring fencing anything when we were in the sI have never worked for an organisation with an ever growing budget that doesn't become ever more inefficient and expensive.
t state we were in was stupid. But populist.0a said:
"There's nothing free about private, it makes profit"
- an argument for the state to ban the private sector entirely. Stunning. I look forward to our state run shops, supermarkets, car companies, phone companies.
She got away with it as well as Pickles is an idiot!
Agree with this too. He should simply have said "There's nothing free about public too , dear".- an argument for the state to ban the private sector entirely. Stunning. I look forward to our state run shops, supermarkets, car companies, phone companies.
She got away with it as well as Pickles is an idiot!
0a said:
I'm incredibly unfashionable in thinking that ring fencing NHS funding just makes it less efficient. Improve management, tighten budgets, and introduce charges for missing appointments or being drunk (for those that can pay) and we can have a better service for less.
I have never worked for an organisation with an ever growing budget that doesn't become ever more inefficient and expensive.
+1I have never worked for an organisation with an ever growing budget that doesn't become ever more inefficient and expensive.
The sooner the cold hard world of economic reality blows through the NHS
the better, in my view.
Let's get the time'n'motion men with their clipboards in
and make the thing more efficient. It's not 1948 anymore.
Back on topic, Harriet was a lot quieter than usual, which was
a blessing and I was pleased to see that UKIP representative
wasn't called Nigel. Some folks think UKIP is a one man band.
Murph7355 said:
"Once we've balanced our books we'll find more money for the NHS".
Errmmmm.
Once we've balanced our books we'd be better off finding another slug of money in cuts to actually start chipping away at the trillion £ National Debt we have. Then, when that's paid off, maybe we can look to spend the extra we have on something nice!
If we shave another 25bn off our expenditure it'd only take 40yrs to pay that off.
The £1.44+ trillion of National debt and rising will take some time to pay off then...Errmmmm.
Once we've balanced our books we'd be better off finding another slug of money in cuts to actually start chipping away at the trillion £ National Debt we have. Then, when that's paid off, maybe we can look to spend the extra we have on something nice!
If we shave another 25bn off our expenditure it'd only take 40yrs to pay that off.
Edited by retrorider on Friday 17th October 15:40
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