Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!

[Sticks.]

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Edited by fido on Friday 16th July 13:10

Indeed. Prefessional rabble-rouser ok?

[Mermaid]

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Fido is right of course. He is far more entertaining/intelligent than that Bercow non-person, and probably far more entertaining than all the crooked MP's he once shared the benches with.

And QT asked him because he adds value.

[fido]

Sticks said:

Indeed. Prefessional rabble-rouser ok?

Yes, i suppose that would be a more apt description.

[Zod]

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Edited by fido on Friday 16th July 13:10

Oh dear. Try putting the words "Galloway", "Mariam" and "oil" into Google.

Edited by Zod on Friday 16th July 14:39

[ettore]

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Edited by fido on Friday 16th July 13:10

I couldn't give a monkey's about the crook bit - I still can't believe someone finds him sincere!

[tinman0]

superlightr said:

chris watton said:

It is a left wing fantasy pantomime, nothing more. Have you ever heard the boos and hisses if any mention, however tenuous, if cuts to the public sector is brought up? If someone mentions Thatcher*, the same applies.
Just watch the programme after QT; lefties are too busy patting themselves on the back for their pantomime performance to watch it.

• This even permeates into ‘normal’ BBC programmes – I happened to watch ‘Electric Dreams’, which is about a family having to live their lives as if they were in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s – and the mother (public sector work, of course..) hissed and called Thatcher, after a news snippet from the 80’s, ‘an evil witch’ – Pure gold for the editors…

Digressing even further, all news channals last night reported that crime had fallen to its lowest level since '97, and they were crediting Labour for it, and added that, thanks to the incomming cuts, they will rise again!

Is it just that I'm getting older and more cynical, or is the media more “propagandarised” than ever?
It’s as if the coalition government doesn’t exist!

Edited by chris watton on Friday 16th July 10:33

agree

Also the BBC always seem to have the first reply on news items from a Labour front bencher or the shadow whatever, hardly ever from the horses mouth.

Our local radio station's political coverage goes like this:

When Labour were in power:

If something screwed up, they would have a read out quote from a Tory, and a soundbite from a Labour Minister

If something a Tory screwed up, they would have a quote from the Tory, and a soundbite from a Labour Minister

Now, with the ConDems in power:

If something is announced, there is a short quote read out from a Tory, and a soundbite from the Labour Shadow Cabinet

If something screws up, there is a soundbite from a Labour Shadow Cabinet

Occasionally they get the odd Tory soundbite, just to pretend some sort of impartiality....

And listening one afternoon recently, the news presenter said "And this afternoon, Prime Minister David Cameron said - 'if you can believe him' - that xyz"

"If you can believe him"????? wtf. Where did that come from?

[Esseesse]

ettore said:

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Edited by fido on Friday 16th July 13:10

I couldn't give a monkey's about the crook bit - I still can't believe someone finds him sincere!

Perhaps I rather meant it's his conviction. 99% of the time I do not agree with what he says, but at least he appears to truly believe it. I find it very hard to believe the same for Ed Balls for example who I cannot remember having anything to back up his argument other than lies and name calling.

[s2art]

Esseesse said:

ettore said:

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Edited by fido on Friday 16th July 13:10

I couldn't give a monkey's about the crook bit - I still can't believe someone finds him sincere!

Perhaps I rather meant it's his conviction. 99% of the time I do not agree with what he says, but at least he appears to truly believe it. I find it very hard to believe the same for Ed Balls for example who I cannot remember having anything to back up his argument other than lies and name calling.

The ability to fool people into thinking you are sincere/have convictions is the hallmark of the best con-men and politicians.

[Esseesse]

s2art said:

Esseesse said:

ettore said:

fido said:

Zod said:

ettore said:

Esseesse said:

Yes, at least Galloway comes across as sincere.

You what?

the man is a crook.

Just because someone doesn't share the same opinions as you, or has opinions that you find distasteful - this in itself doesn't make them a crook.

Edited by fido on Friday 16th July 13:10

I couldn't give a monkey's about the crook bit - I still can't believe someone finds him sincere!

Perhaps I rather meant it's his conviction. 99% of the time I do not agree with what he says, but at least he appears to truly believe it. I find it very hard to believe the same for Ed Balls for example who I cannot remember having anything to back up his argument other than lies and name calling.

The ability to fool people into thinking you are sincere/have convictions is the hallmark of the best con-men and politicians.

I take it you dismiss anyone remotely sincere as trying to con you then?

[fido]

s2art said:

The ability to fool people into thinking you are sincere/have convictions is the hallmark of the best con-men and politicians.

I actually think his performance in the Senate was pretty genuine - in fact that was one of the best performances i have seen of any politician. Anyway, i don't want to come across as a GG fan - but i think Question Time would be boring if it was just a Labour (assisted by carefully selected journo)-Conservative fight - which it often appears to be.

Edited by fido on Saturday 17th July 01:05

[deadslow]

Christ, stop watching the bloody programme if its that bad. It ought to have an anti-government bias, the clue is in the title. Why don't you just tune into Tory TV (Sky)?

These threads are now borderline pathetic.

[turbobloke]

How does not watching QT reduce blatant political favouritism in a supposedly neutral but still influential broadcaster? For pathetic, see under 'BBC bias'. At least with a significantly reduced licence fee those receiving payment for producing propaganda will not be so well rewarded for their lefty cronyism.

[chris watton]

"Licence fee for 'wasteful' BBC will be cut
Television viewers can soon expect to pay less for their BBC licence fee as part of the austerity drive in public spending, Jeremy Hunt, the Culture Secretary, will signal on Saturday"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...

Hope this is just the start...

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 17th July 08:19

[Magog]

chris watton said:

"Licence fee for 'wasteful' BBC will be cut
Television viewers can soon expect to pay less for their BBC licence fee as part of the austerity drive in public spending, Jeremy Hunt, the Culture Secretary, will signal on Saturday"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...

Hope this is just the start...

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 17th July 08:19

I hope it's a significant cut... down to £75 pounds or so.

[thinfourth2]

chris watton said:

"Licence fee for 'wasteful' BBC will be cut
Television viewers can soon expect to pay less for their BBC licence fee as part of the austerity drive in public spending, Jeremy Hunt, the Culture Secretary, will signal on Saturday"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...

Hope this is just the start...

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 17th July 08:19

Which will mean more of this



and whole lot less of this

[chris watton]

thinfourth2 said:

chris watton said:

"Licence fee for 'wasteful' BBC will be cut
Television viewers can soon expect to pay less for their BBC licence fee as part of the austerity drive in public spending, Jeremy Hunt, the Culture Secretary, will signal on Saturday"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...

Hope this is just the start...

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 17th July 08:19

Which will mean more of this



and whole lot less of this

Can't remember staying in on a Saturday night and not renting a DVD.

Attenbourogh has now been converted to to GW worshipper, when was the last episode of Blackadder made, and isn't the great john Peel dead?

The Beeb do still make some great programmes (of which I purchase on DVD, thus ensuring, in my own small way, that they get duly rewarded for the shows - although last weeks' "The Silence" certainly wasn't one of them!), but when do we stop saying it's great value when every household in the UK require the TV tax, especially when a huge chunk of the news and current affairs section ignors its own mandate?

If the licence fee was £500 per year, I am sure some would say "well it's worth it cos I get to watch F1....."

[TuxRacer]

Maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if dancing on wheels cost more to make than a David Attenborough programme or a Blackadder episode, though the cost of a John Peel show is probably quite high these days...

[Zod]

deadslow said:

Christ, stop watching the bloody programme if its that bad. It ought to have an anti-government bias, the clue is in the title. Why don't you just tune into Tory TV (Sky)?

These threads are now borderline pathetic.

It certainly had no anti-government bias before May!

[Uhura fighter]

Damian green, Sadiq Khan, Nigel Farage, Bob Crow and Ruth Lee on tonights. (22/07)

[MX7]

Crowe - 'Griffin shouldn't have been invited'

So much for free choice...