Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!
Discussion
johnxjsc1985 said:
Welshbeef said:
Though he does represent x% - why is that probably because our education covers tiny bits of Henry 8 and a brushstroke over Franz Ferdinand (though maybe they do that in music class these days).
We don't tech economics even at a simplistic level, nor politics, not modern relevant history. Given what >50% of school leavers only do GCSE or less the awareness of everything is pathetic.
Sorry red wine bottle or two down tonight
I think Economics is simple dont spend more than you earn and put a bit aside for a rainy day.We don't tech economics even at a simplistic level, nor politics, not modern relevant history. Given what >50% of school leavers only do GCSE or less the awareness of everything is pathetic.
Sorry red wine bottle or two down tonight
VolvoT5 said:
I thought last night was one of the most balanced QTs we have seen in ages. All the leaders got a shafting by the audience!
Clegg, well I couldn't care less what he thinks as he broke too many promises and probably wont' even hold his seat this time around. I feel he is deluded.
Cameron was just evasive on too many questions, especially around this 12bn of cuts. He claims he has 'seen the books' so knows what is achievable but he won't give examples or figures. I have seen how the disability benefit changes have badly affected non 'scrounger' family and I'm concerned about how further cuts to disability, NHS and social support services will hit vulnerable. He needs to spell out how he would avoid this.
Miliband - by far his weakest TV performance of the election debates, he undid any good work from the last few weeks. I think this performance has actually cost him the chance to scrape into government. He was so week on the economy and the soundbite that he doesn't believe Labour spent too much last time around is just toxic really. If you are going to say that kind of thing you need to back it up with some kind of evidence, or at least highlight how the economy is currently growing less than it was when Labour left government and how the debt isn't actually falling.
Farage did quite well in his version later in the evening........ should have been included in the main show given how UKIP are polling vs the Lib dems. Not a UKIP supporter myself but I am quite sick of them being painted as the racist party. Main parties need to debate on the issues and not just try to shut down debate by screaming racism. Plus one look at Labour or the Tories and you can find numerous examples of con men, pervs, racists, etc... just doesn't get as much TV coverage as UKIP IMO.
The result of this election is likely to highlight the flaws in our electoral system. Quite likely to have a Labour government but not as the biggest single party. The Lib Dems will retain 25-30 seats and significant influence on less than 10% of the vote share, while UKIP / Greens / others fail to get any significant representation with very similar number of votes. That cannot be right.
I don't want to vote for any of these turds at the moment.
Trouble for Farage is there is a world away in terms of audience size, and talking to casual voters, between 8.00pm-9.30pm and 10.50pm. The only people tuning in any numbers at 10.50pm are people who have already made up their mind about Farage and UKIP. Hardly balanced there by the BBC I'm afraid, indeed it looks like (from the outside, even though it was a funny episode of Peter Kay) as though the BBC reluctantly, or were ordered to put him on for 28mins, for fear accusations of political bias.Clegg, well I couldn't care less what he thinks as he broke too many promises and probably wont' even hold his seat this time around. I feel he is deluded.
Cameron was just evasive on too many questions, especially around this 12bn of cuts. He claims he has 'seen the books' so knows what is achievable but he won't give examples or figures. I have seen how the disability benefit changes have badly affected non 'scrounger' family and I'm concerned about how further cuts to disability, NHS and social support services will hit vulnerable. He needs to spell out how he would avoid this.
Miliband - by far his weakest TV performance of the election debates, he undid any good work from the last few weeks. I think this performance has actually cost him the chance to scrape into government. He was so week on the economy and the soundbite that he doesn't believe Labour spent too much last time around is just toxic really. If you are going to say that kind of thing you need to back it up with some kind of evidence, or at least highlight how the economy is currently growing less than it was when Labour left government and how the debt isn't actually falling.
Farage did quite well in his version later in the evening........ should have been included in the main show given how UKIP are polling vs the Lib dems. Not a UKIP supporter myself but I am quite sick of them being painted as the racist party. Main parties need to debate on the issues and not just try to shut down debate by screaming racism. Plus one look at Labour or the Tories and you can find numerous examples of con men, pervs, racists, etc... just doesn't get as much TV coverage as UKIP IMO.
The result of this election is likely to highlight the flaws in our electoral system. Quite likely to have a Labour government but not as the biggest single party. The Lib Dems will retain 25-30 seats and significant influence on less than 10% of the vote share, while UKIP / Greens / others fail to get any significant representation with very similar number of votes. That cannot be right.
I don't want to vote for any of these turds at the moment.
Edited by VolvoT5 on Friday 1st May 10:32
Northern Munkee said:
Scuffers said:
what I find stunning bout all this is that in the current world with the internet/wikipedia/etc. we have more and more people that are plain morons on this stuff.
it would have taken the specie idiot seconds to look up this stuff, yet he failed miserably to know anything of this country's (and the worlds) recent history.
Is this the legacy of Blair's education, education, education policies?
I think the trouble is in his instant iPhone, Google world the full extent of his reading would be the wiki, then he's an expert, he hasn't the time to read things like book and history, he's a hipster FFS!it would have taken the specie idiot seconds to look up this stuff, yet he failed miserably to know anything of this country's (and the worlds) recent history.
Is this the legacy of Blair's education, education, education policies?
Radical Left my arse, another public school boy with a chip on his shoulder. Radical Left? Probably went to a squat once. Satirical comedian? He's not even young he's 34 years old (talking for a generation - he's not part of), and he's just managed to get on BBC3, hardly fit to shine Peter Cook's shoes, who had invented modern satire, and by 25 had opened The Establishment, was on BBC1 and had started Private Eye.
Hipster according to my iPhone - his wiki & Google(see what I've done there) he has done knack all between leaving uni, aside from a couple episodes of The Bill, a series of internships supported by mum and dad no doubt, and networking with his old school pals (which used to be called the "old boys network") probably reinvented himself out of desperation or typical pseudo middle class guilt to be a champion the downtrodden classes and to give himself a job, as a Russell Brand-lite (if that is possible) I have more time for Owen Jones, well a nano second more maybe.
Hoink said:
Chatting about this at work earlier.
Apparently the audience we're too aggressive and, unlike the fair audience the BBC normally has, was too right wing.
The person in question thinks Miliband did well and was disappointed the BBC didn't give their normal balanced view on things.
I was shouted down when I questioned the normal political stance of the BBC.
You should send them this link, even the BBC acknowledges that the audience were goodApparently the audience we're too aggressive and, unlike the fair audience the BBC normally has, was too right wing.
The person in question thinks Miliband did well and was disappointed the BBC didn't give their normal balanced view on things.
I was shouted down when I questioned the normal political stance of the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32540549
SunsetZed said:
Hoink said:
Chatting about this at work earlier.
Apparently the audience we're too aggressive and, unlike the fair audience the BBC normally has, was too right wing.
The person in question thinks Miliband did well and was disappointed the BBC didn't give their normal balanced view on things.
I was shouted down when I questioned the normal political stance of the BBC.
You should send them this link, even the BBC acknowledges that the audience were goodApparently the audience we're too aggressive and, unlike the fair audience the BBC normally has, was too right wing.
The person in question thinks Miliband did well and was disappointed the BBC didn't give their normal balanced view on things.
I was shouted down when I questioned the normal political stance of the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32540549
This is the lady who loves living in a democracy but doesn't think we should have a say on Europe.
FredClogs said:
Johnnytheboy said:
covmutley said:
I do like clegg. He seems passionate and honest and speaks well.
That's what everyone said five years ago. 
k ask wrong really and taken loads of st, I genuinely believe that we would be fked even further up the wazoo had the Tories been given a free run.It's just the case that <2010 people voted LibDem not expecting them to have to face the realities of being in a coalition. When that happened their support melted away and Clegg became a baddie.
Johnnytheboy said:
It's just the case that <2010 people voted LibDem not expecting them to have to face the realities of being in a coalition. When that happened their support melted away and Clegg became a baddie.
The implication of this is that LibDem voters were more comfortable with their chosen party being a minority on the opposition benches rather than as part of a government where they could influence things. Odd bunch... 
RichB said:
Johnnytheboy said:
It's just the case that <2010 people voted LibDem not expecting them to have to face the realities of being in a coalition. When that happened their support melted away and Clegg became a baddie.
The implication of this is that LibDem voters were more comfortable with their chosen party being a minority on the opposition benches rather than as part of a government where they could influence things. Odd bunch... Edited by Magog on Friday 1st May 15:45
edh said:
Slaav said:
Being a little bit of a Tory boy, I use the household budget as an anology all the time!
And that's your first mistake - Government finances are not like household finances.I guess you also believe that Greece and Spain (and Portugal and Ireland and .....) have been prudent all these years???
Slaav said:
edh said:
Slaav said:
Being a little bit of a Tory boy, I use the household budget as an anology all the time!
And that's your first mistake - Government finances are not like household finances.I guess you also believe that Greece and Spain (and Portugal and Ireland and .....) have been prudent all these years???
...as for the PIGS - all eurozone countries, so missing an important "club". Their problems also partly arising from eurozone membership. Big problems in those countries, not just public sector spending though.
Hoink said:
Chatting about this at work earlier.
Apparently the audience we're too aggressive and, unlike the fair audience the BBC normally has, was too right wing.
The person in question thinks Miliband did well and was disappointed the BBC didn't give their normal balanced view on things.
I was shouted down when I questioned the normal political stance of the BBC.
Interesting. That those on the right found this session balanced for once, probably meant that it did indeed lean to the right rather than to the left or far to the left for a change. So bloody what!Apparently the audience we're too aggressive and, unlike the fair audience the BBC normally has, was too right wing.
The person in question thinks Miliband did well and was disappointed the BBC didn't give their normal balanced view on things.
I was shouted down when I questioned the normal political stance of the BBC.
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