Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!
Discussion
chris watton said:
Why is there so little fuss kicked up about Andy Burnham and his past failures, most notably the NHS Mid Staffs scandal?
I would be willing to bet everything that if the boot were on the other foot, and he was a Tory minister who messed up in such a way, the BBC would mention it every time his name was said!
I think it's because he is on the left, so any attack from the right maybe seen as a criticism of the NHS and not just Burnham. I met him after my question time appearance and had a brief chat and to be fair he made sense on the subject we discussed but I came away thinking how disappointed was he that he didn't join the Tories? he attacks them at every opportunity yet sounds more like a Tory than Cameron.I would be willing to bet everything that if the boot were on the other foot, and he was a Tory minister who messed up in such a way, the BBC would mention it every time his name was said!
NoNeed said:
I met him after my question time appearance and had a brief chat and to be fair he made sense on the subject we discussed but I came away thinking how disappointed was he that he didn't join the Tories? he attacks them at every opportunity yet sounds more like a Tory than Cameron.
Burnham & Liz Kendall would do better with the Tories.Halb said:
Challo said:
Did anyone watch This Week afterwards? They had Jack Monroe on who is very odd. Didn't really answer any questions and only did when Andrew pushed her, then seem to claim that having kids with no way to pay for them is not an issue, and that somehow companies will all be able to afford the living wage.
Very strange.
I watched it. Very strange. Portillo got ticked off with Brillo pad. Very strange.
Poor show by Neil shutting Portillo up when making a very salient observation.
Both QT and the once very watchable Andrew Neil's programme which follows it have gone down the pan in recent years. Was a time when both were a "must see" for me but, not any more.
Just watched it as I've got better things to do at that time of the night. The 2 outer debaters. What morons. The tree hugging religious nut needs to get back to his paedo pulpit where all the child molesters are. Yeh let all migrants whoever they are and wherever they come from into the UK. House them, school them, build a s
t load more roads for them to drive on etc. A city the size of Plymouth needs to be built every year for the population explosion to house more and more. More hospitals, more nurses and doctors, more civil servants, swell up the councils. More cops, more everything.
Who pays for it all?
t load more roads for them to drive on etc. A city the size of Plymouth needs to be built every year for the population explosion to house more and more. More hospitals, more nurses and doctors, more civil servants, swell up the councils. More cops, more everything.Who pays for it all?
MGJohn said:
That particular woman's stance on this widespread unaffordable breeding issue is so typical of a Nation with an increasingly higher proportion of the population getting their priorities all A'Cock! Literally.
Poor show by Neil shutting Portillo up when making a very salient observation.
Both QT and the once very watchable Andrew Neil's programme which follows it have gone down the pan in recent years. Was a time when both were a "must see" for me but, not any more.
Lesbian single mother who's more left than the Rive Gauche and doesn't worry herself with who has to pay for her (and similar) life choices....ticks all the boxes. Her circumstances also make it difficult for anyone challenging her dumb arrested views not to be accused of picking on her (women, single mums, lesbians, etc) when in actual fact it's reality/common sense and would apply to anyone.Poor show by Neil shutting Portillo up when making a very salient observation.
Both QT and the once very watchable Andrew Neil's programme which follows it have gone down the pan in recent years. Was a time when both were a "must see" for me but, not any more.
The only saving grace about people like her/Russell Brand/etc is that the longer they take the King's schilling for, the more hypocritical they become.
I was equally irked by Andrew Neil cutting off Portillo (who was visibly irritated by Ms Monroe - he looked angry). But I suspect he sensed she was either about to cry or start fisticuffs
This Week is still the better programme (Dimbleby needs replacing on Question Time). Andrew Neil is nigh on always well prepared and not prepared to let people get away with half arsed thinking. He backed off too soon last night, but rarely does from what I've seen.
NoNeed said:
chris watton said:
Why is there so little fuss kicked up about Andy Burnham and his past failures, most notably the NHS Mid Staffs scandal?
I would be willing to bet everything that if the boot were on the other foot, and he was a Tory minister who messed up in such a way, the BBC would mention it every time his name was said!
I think it's because he is on the left, so any attack from the right maybe seen as a criticism of the NHS and not just Burnham. I met him after my question time appearance and had a brief chat and to be fair he made sense on the subject we discussed but I came away thinking how disappointed was he that he didn't join the Tories? he attacks them at every opportunity yet sounds more like a Tory than Cameron. I would be willing to bet everything that if the boot were on the other foot, and he was a Tory minister who messed up in such a way, the BBC would mention it every time his name was said!
She shouldn't have made a fuss about what was going on at that hospital?
It's like people in Germany doing nothing about factories burning Jews.
It's like the business owners in Amity wanting to keep schtum about the big, hungry shark eating the holidaymakers.
It's like keeping child sex crimes secret because the perps have a certain demographic.
Burnham has done something about Hillsborough.
Edited by carinaman on Friday 26th June 14:51
QuantumTokoloshi said:
I actually enjoyed QT this week, Dimbleby let the show run, and the audience got stuck in with some proper questions baring one or two. Evans put on a credible performance, surprised more was not made of the issue with Farage. Burnham was his usual evasive mascara self, Fraser Nelson is a decent commentator, the Guardian columnist was at least honest about his political preferences, which you may not agree with but can respect.
The conservative Environment minister seems to be an Anna Soubry type, strident but dim, lots of waffle but towing the party line to the death.
Agree with you, seemed pretty reasonable lastnight..The conservative Environment minister seems to be an Anna Soubry type, strident but dim, lots of waffle but towing the party line to the death.
The Lefty (on the right!) is just typical of Guardian/CoE hardcore socialists, totally devoid of any sense of reality.
Bit's I picked up on:
1) the nurse in the audience going on about Tax credits and how she was skint working for the NHS and has just had her 3rd child? - what is it with people? popping children out at will is totally irresponsible, they costs huge money to bring up well, and why are you expecting the state to pay for this?
2) the Calais problem, look, they are not refugees, they are migrants, not one shown on TV has been from Syria etc, they are from north africa, and I also note they are predominantly are males, no women with children to be seen, they all also seem to have iPhones, etc.
3) Labour still don't get it (why they lost)
4) The tories have got re-elected, so we won't bother fielding somebody that's going to do anything other than toe the party line.
Challo said:
Did anyone watch This Week afterwards? They had Jack Monroe on who is very odd. Didn't really answer any questions and only did when Andrew pushed her, then seem to claim that having kids with no way to pay for them is not an issue, and that somehow companies will all be able to afford the living wage.
Very strange.
Is she the one that always says, "I've had a tough life" and "I'm a single mum" as if it constitutes an argument or is supposed to be impressive?Very strange.
carinaman said:
Farage and Soubry on Radio 4 Any Questions now. Will be repeated tomorrow lunch time and will be on iplayer.
Damn ... missed that. They both usually worth listening too and I was driving along the M5 Motorway whilst that AQ R4 was on. Listened to a Little Richard CD instead ... classic fail. carinaman said:
Soubry got her School Mistress hat on and opened a can of Whupp Ass on Farage.
I have just wasted 50 minutes listening to that nonsense.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05zlltq
'School Mistress'? doubt it.
she started ok, expanding the Government line, then turned a strident screamer to personally attack Mr Farage, very poor show indeed.
and Norman Lamb, god what a wet, thank god the LibDems got kicked out of parliament. A travesty that they are able to still pack the HoL.
QuantumTokoloshi said:
I actually enjoyed QT this week, Dimbleby let the show run, and the audience got stuck in with some proper questions baring one or two. Evans put on a credible performance, surprised more was not made of the issue with Farage. Burnham was his usual evasive mascara self, Fraser Nelson is a decent commentator, the Guardian columnist was at least honest about his political preferences, which you may not agree with but can respect.
Just watched it on iplayer. Was a better QT than normal but Dimblett still needs to learn he isn't supposed to be star of the show. I have to say Burnham is just awful. I've never liked him particularly but the more I see the less I like. He speaks a lot but has nothing to actually say! He is caught between slagging off the nasty "Tory cuts" and being desperate not to be painted as a left wing tax and spender... as a result I don't think I know where he actually stands on anything. He appears to have no principles and no vision. So pretty much a modern politician through and through.
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