Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!

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eharding

13,701 posts

284 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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Halb said:
Weary of internet morons said:
Oh joy! Lucas not able to spout about climate change. So nice to see her frustrated, after all the frustration and anger her every appearance causes. Ho ho.
THis Week! Now!!!
I'd pay money to see Corbyn, Corbyn's big brother and Caroline Lucas locked in a room together hehe


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 3rd December 2015
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eharding said:
I'd pay money to see Corbyn, Corbyn's big brother and Caroline Lucas locked in a room together hehe
Ménage a trois?

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Sheeeeeeeeet, I missed his intro....had no idea he was Corbyn's bro!!!!!



Sheeeeeeeeeettttttttt


tie makes sense. biggrin

Weary of internet morons

1,339 posts

184 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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He and his site have been quoted on PH many a time in relation to the weather threads like the snow 'one'. Seems to offer a better mid to long range forecast than the Met office for example. Mind you...

turbobloke

103,946 posts

260 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Weary of internet morons said:
He and his site have been quoted on PH many a time in relation to the weather threads like the snow 'one'. Seems to offer a better mid to long range forecast than the Met office for example. Mind you...
I see what you did there, alluding to the Met Office's superb track record that would be hard to beat hehe



In the arena of meteorology and climate Dr Piers Corbyn is a rare breed of scientist these days in that he bases his views as well as his business on data and science rather than grants, gigo and politics. He was crudely vilified in the Climategate emails by people claiming to be scientists who lean to the huge grants and voodoo side of things. Receiving abuse from such people is a good sign.

FWIW here are some snips from the Climategate emails directed against Piers Corbyn. They usually followed an appearance by Corbyn on TV or radio daring to expose the junkscience of manmadeup warming, the contradiction in the first two snips is holarious.

"His name in case you should come across him is Piers Corbyn. He is nowhere near as good as a couple of yours and he's an utter prat but he's getting a lot of air time at the moment. For his day job he teaches physics and astronomy at a University..."

"Piers Corbyn carries no credibility whatsoever"

This is superb and to understand the context you need to recall that a Senior Climate Scientist at the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit had previously been featured in The Independent in March 2000 as follows (the newspaper has recently taken down the offending webpage, who could possibly guess why):

The Independent in March 2000 said:
According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event. Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.
Back to Piers featuring in a Climategate message dated 04 January 2007...

"The funniest one was a British one, which also got a forecast from Piers Corbyn, who said it will be snowing by mid-Jan. Several have emailed in responses, saying he said that for mid-Dec as well!!"

The first significant 2007 UK snowfall occurred on 18 January and by early February heavy snowfall aka Vinerism had closed schools and caused transport problems.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6274533.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6338151.stm

Then consider the UK winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11. Apart from all that, I missed the tie - was it a kipper tie with two sugars? It would be a humdinger to have Piers and Viner on QT after the next UK snowfall.


Weary of internet morons

1,339 posts

184 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Yep, the dig was deliberate.

The tie was an incredibly bright and colourful Paris affair. Combined with a hideously vulgar blue and white checked shirt and one of the pale suits he lends bro he did have the unfortunate appearance of an overly eccentric clown. A pity. Someone should warn him about credibility-own-goals.


turbobloke

103,946 posts

260 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Weary of internet morons said:
Yep, the dig was deliberate.

The tie was an incredibly bright and colourful Paris affair. Combined with a hideously vulgar blue and white checked shirt and one of the pale suits he lends bro he did have the unfortunate appearance of an overly eccentric clown. A pity. Someone should warn him about credibility-own-goals.
It would have been ott for me, even CMD's lime green tie is too much.

He (Piers Corbyn) is indeed seen as something of an eccentric, and people use that to detract from the accuracy in what he says.

It's still accurate (more so than UKMO in most cases).

Ridgemont

6,570 posts

131 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Amusing views from wattsup on Corbyn;

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/05/putting-pier...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/15/willis-on-wh...

As pointed out, it's not just his sartorial style that could do with a Gok Wan however because of his somewhat bonkers presentation, verifying his forecasts is problematic.






Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Ridgemont said:
Amusing views from wattsup on Corbyn;

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/05/putting-pier...
Over the long term, is he accurate or not?

turbobloke

103,946 posts

260 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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Halb said:
Ridgemont said:
Amusing views from wattsup on Corbyn;

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/05/putting-pier...
Over the long term, is he accurate or not?
Forecasts With Proven Skill

Weather Action forecasts are the only long-range weather forecasts that have proven skill verified by independent academic statisticians and published in scientific literature.

Early Weather Action (Solar Weather Technique) skill was independently verified in a peer-reviewed paper by Dr Dennis Wheeler, University of Sunderland, in the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, Vol 63 (2001) p29-34.

Bets and notional bets can be used to estimate Forecasting Power which is the % profit (or negative for losses) on stakes that would come from bets placed at fair odds. For general long range forecasts for the three most extreme recent seasons, namely Summer 2007, Summer 2008 and Winter 2008-09 The Met Office long range forecast Power is minus 100% (ie Met Office long range forecasts failed in all three cases) and WeatherAction (Solar Weather Technique) scores about plus 500%.

More at the link.

http://www.weatheraction.com/pages/pv.asp?p=wact45

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 4th December 2015
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turbobloke said:
Forecasts With Proven Skill

Weather Action forecasts are the only long-range weather forecasts that have proven skill verified by independent academic statisticians and published in scientific literature.

Early Weather Action (Solar Weather Technique) skill was independently verified in a peer-reviewed paper by Dr Dennis Wheeler, University of Sunderland, in the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, Vol 63 (2001) p29-34.

Bets and notional bets can be used to estimate Forecasting Power which is the % profit (or negative for losses) on stakes that would come from bets placed at fair odds. For general long range forecasts for the three most extreme recent seasons, namely Summer 2007, Summer 2008 and Winter 2008-09 The Met Office long range forecast Power is minus 100% (ie Met Office long range forecasts failed in all three cases) and WeatherAction (Solar Weather Technique) scores about plus 500%.

More at the link.

http://www.weatheraction.com/pages/pv.asp?p=wact45
Excellent! Ta!

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Meh. sleep


williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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The obligatory question about the NHS this week. An anti daily mail question. Syria question. Mary is sooooo left wing she will think Corbyn isnt trying hard enough. And how can osbourne offer cash to people in the uk when syrians need the cash more?? Etc etc

DrDeAtH

3,587 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Just another pointless panel again..... Has QT run its course??

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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I think some blame can be portioned to the spineless gimps who don't wanna go on.
Flint again? She was on the Daily Politics, she be a hopeless sound bite machine, but at least she turns up.

mcelliott

8,661 posts

181 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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BlackLabel said:
Meh. sleep

No .

DeanR32

1,840 posts

183 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Out of curiosity, who would you (general, whoever wants to answer) like to see on the panel? What/who would liven the debate up?

eharding

13,701 posts

284 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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DrDeAtH said:
Just another pointless panel again..... Has QT run its course??
I'm holding out for a QT Christmas Special with Donald Trump, Diane Abbott, Russell Brand, Nigel Farage, George Monbiot and someone in the audience with a grudge and a minigun.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Flint yummy smile


QT bingo
Heathrow runway
Trump
Flooding
Labour seat hold and big increase nod for Corbyn

Murph7355

37,711 posts

256 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Heathrow runway
Trump
Flooding
Labour seat hold and big increase nod for Corbyn
Good shout, but Flint? You need our sty checking.

Most punchable QT panel for a while. QT remains to me like an ultra violet light is to bugs!
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