Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!

Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!

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Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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One wonders if the microphones too are not strategically placed. They are movable, after all.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Beard owned the Trump question.

Thorodin said:
One wonders if the microphones too are not strategically placed. They are movable, after all.
THey have good range and can whizz about all over the place on the big booms.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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jmorgan said:
Or maybe they are the only ones that can be bothered to turn up.
Correct. I think I've mentioned this before however that's exactly what Dimbleby said on BBCR4 a while ago. Anyone can apply to the show and the BBC try to make it a fair balance however if no Tories apply, it'll end up being non-representative by default.

The reaction to Corbyn did make me laugh though. The Bath constituency was Conservative from 1931-1992, Liberal Democrat from 1992-2015 and is Conservative again now - hardly a Corbyn hotbed. laugh

DrDoofenshmirtz said:
They probably don't have jobs or are at Uni. Normal people are too busy to go to a show like that!
Eh? It's on at 22:35 on a Thursday evening. Who is too busy to do something at that time?

eharding

13,705 posts

284 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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MrBarry123 said:
Eh? It's on at 22:35 on a Thursday evening. Who is too busy to do something at that time?
You do realise that when you turn on the magic lantern box, the people you see a) aren't actually inside it and b) aren't necessarily doing what you see them doing at the time you see them doing it?

Item (b) is more relevant here, but I thought we'd establish (a) just in case.

turbobloke

103,954 posts

260 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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MrBarry123 said:
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
They probably don't have jobs or are at Uni. Normal people are too busy to go to a show like that!
Eh? It's on at 22:35 on a Thursday evening. Who is too busy to do something at that time?
ISWYM but the answer relates to people who do work when the work is there to be done and until it's done, rather than doing work only between normal office hours.

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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eharding said:
MrBarry123 said:
Eh? It's on at 22:35 on a Thursday evening. Who is too busy to do something at that time?
You do realise that when you turn on the magic lantern box, the people you see a) aren't actually inside it and b) aren't necessarily doing what you see them doing at the time you see them doing it?

Item (b) is more relevant here, but I thought we'd establish (a) just in case.
ok then for the pedants among us - It's recorded at 20:30 on a Thursday evening

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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irocfan said:
eharding said:
MrBarry123 said:
Eh? It's on at 22:35 on a Thursday evening. Who is too busy to do something at that time?
You do realise that when you turn on the magic lantern box, the people you see a) aren't actually inside it and b) aren't necessarily doing what you see them doing at the time you see them doing it?

Item (b) is more relevant here, but I thought we'd establish (a) just in case.
ok then for the pedants among us - It's recorded at 20:30 on a Thursday evening
Thank you - was about to reply with this.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Yep, I went to a filming back in 2005, it was at the ITV centre in Leeds perhaps a week or two after the general election - I managed to leave the studio and drive back to my Dads place in Huddersfield in time for the showing on TV.

Boris Johnson was there, someone mentioned the idea of him "throwing his hat into the Tory leadership circle" and everyone cheered.

Harriet Harman was there too, what a tosser.

Edited by Axionknight on Saturday 12th December 14:55

hidetheelephants

24,352 posts

193 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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That was dire; the floods aren't to do with climate change but they are really? Do these fkwits not appreciate how stupid that sounds? Short of saying it while winking ostentatiously at the camera they couldn't make it more ridiculous.

Cobnapint

8,627 posts

151 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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hidetheelephants said:
That was dire; the floods aren't to do with climate change but they are really? Do these fkwits not appreciate how stupid that sounds? Short of saying it while winking ostentatiously at the camera they couldn't make it more ridiculous.
Agreed. There are dozens of riverside villages and towns across the UK that are littered with signs showing flood levels that go back centuries.

There were no cars, power stations or polish steel works back then, but they don't seem to be bothered about that little fact.

I suppose back then, all the likes of Ye Old Green Party would have had to moan about to the town crier would have been the local Smythy and flatulent cattle.

turbobloke

103,954 posts

260 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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hidetheelephants said:
That was dire; the floods aren't to do ]with climate change but they are really? Do these fkwits not appreciate how stupid that sounds? Short of saying it while winking ostentatiously at the camera they couldn't make it more ridiculous.
yes

Just to nail it:

Dr Spencer quoted in The Times said:
Date: 10/12/15
Ben Webster, The Times

Scientists have contradicted a minister’s claim that last weekend’s flooding in Cumbria was unprecedented and linked to climate change.

They say that there have been 34 extreme floods there in the past 300 years and that lives had been put at risk by “grossly underestimating” the risk of floods and failing to consider evidence from records.

Liz Truss, the environment secretary, told MPs on Monday that Cumbria had experienced an “unprecedented weather event” that was “consistent with climate change trends”.

Dr Tom Spencer, a reader in coastal ecology and geomorphology at the University of Cambridge, said that analysis of deposits left by floods in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries showed they were the “biggest events”. These floods happened long before the rise in manmade emissions, undermining the claim that last weekend’s floods were linked to climate change. He said that the government relied too heavily on records dating back only 40 years.
Reality is as above, gov't and EA putting lives at risk.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Daily Politics: Katie Hopkins... She never fails to reveal her stupidity and lack of coherent thinking. 😀

EdJ

1,286 posts

195 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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alock said:
Anyone who doubts how bad QT had recently become should watch this episode.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEVA4EAP_S0
Thanks for posting this link - what a contrast.

I do wonder about the audiences on Question Time. Are the left just better at mobilising supporters to turn up to these things?

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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eharding said:
I'm holding out for a QT Christmas Special with Donald Trump, Diane Abbott, Russell Brand, Nigel Farage, George Monbiot and someone in the audience with a grudge and a minigun.
Made me laugh.


Fantasy panels often come up.
Good ones I'd like to see.
Lord Star of the Key
Corbyn
Galloway
Hitchens
Hannan

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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alock said:
Anyone who doubts how bad QT had recently become should watch this episode.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEVA4EAP_S0
'Kin ell....what I get from this is what a sore sore loss, losing the better Hitchens was.
The other Hithens was pretty decent, though... hehe
Boris was a bumbler, and the witch was was a witch.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Halb said:
Daily Politics: Katie Hopkins... She never fails to reveal her stupidity and lack of coherent thinking. ??
I saw that. Thought the cow wiped the floor with AN, much to his own chagrin. Reduced him to shouting her down, or trying to. He was determined to pursue his one sided dogma but came across as even ruder than her!
He's usually deft but this episode made him look daft. I'm not saying she was 'right', but she was more than equal to him!







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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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I find Brillo rather rude at times. He sometimes comes across as a shouty mouthpiece just wanting to make zingers, it is increasingly fking tedious. I don't know if he gets more like this with people he doesn't like, or just can't keep himself in check.

Cobnapint

8,627 posts

151 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Thorodin said:
Halb said:
Daily Politics: Katie Hopkins... She never fails to reveal her stupidity and lack of coherent thinking. ??
I saw that. Thought the cow wiped the floor with AN, much to his own chagrin. Reduced him to shouting her down, or trying to. He was determined to pursue his one sided dogma but came across as even ruder than her!
He's usually deft but this episode made him look daft. I'm not saying she was 'right', but she was more than equal.
Agree. Neil is the best political interrogator out there, but he met his match in KH.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

133 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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It all arose because he was determined to follow the BBC refusal to allow mention of the alternative on-line petition of around 400K (not far off equal) to allow Trump into UK - usual blinkered tactics of BBC - and KH had prepared for that. He came out of it as bigoted whereas that was what he wanted to get her to be seen as. Biter bit. Can't abide the cow myself but I now see AN as being from similar cloth. Shame.







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Edited by Thorodin on Sunday 13th December 15:01

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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I didn't know there was another petition, but I don't think may news outlets really are covering it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-t...
The 'anti' one has more soundbite to it.

Is this the one?
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114907
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