Wobbly Coalition?
Discussion
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions. 
We can compare passports if you like to come second. However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.
When have I ever said "blue ties would solve all the UKs problems"?
Never is the answer, I simply don't subscribe to your achingly dull daily anti-coalition diatribes on this forum.
Speaking of subscriptions, when I google 'Fittster' you appear to spend all your time boring people on various fora, is this you also about half way down the page 'seeking massage partners?'
"Fittster, Male, 32, Norfolk"
http://www.massage-exchange.co.uk/massage_Norwich_...
Look for a man on the internet! What a surprise, do you think they will be able to get their cock up your arse with your head already stuffed up there?
You're exactly the bitter little man I thought you were!
So did you get many replies to your plea for 'massage partners'?
OnTheOverrun said:
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions.
We can compare passports if you like to come second. However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.
When have I ever said "blue ties would solve all the UKs problems"?
Never is the answer, I simply don't subscribe to your achingly dull daily anti-coalition diatribes on this forum.
Speaking of subscriptions, when I google 'Fittster' you appear to spend all your time boring people on various fora, is this you also about half way down the page 'seeking massage partners?'
"Fittster, Male, 32, Norfolk"
http://www.massage-exchange.co.uk/massage_Norwich_...
Look for a man on the internet! What a surprise, do you think they will be able to get their cock up your arse with your head already stuffed up there?
You're exactly the bitter little man I thought you were!
So did you get many replies to your plea for 'massage partners'?
Don't lie, you aren't intellectually capable of having a thought.Now go back to trawling gay contact websites.
Fittster said:
elster said:
I am not so sure, as this will mean lobbying will be done, along with advertisement for those bills that will help certain companies.
But lobbying and advertizing already happen, it's just directed to your elected representative who makes a decision on your behalf. I'd rather the advertising/lobbying was focused at the general population who could then make their own decisions. Does your representative really but his constituencies views above those of the party they belong to?
My representative is just there, he toes the party line and is inoffensive. Not who I want as my MP that is for sure.
A good MP and councillor should represent the views of the general public and be available so the views can be heard. At present they try to make themselves convenient to the select few views they want to hear.
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Having lived in several countries such as Germany I have a less blinkered view of coalitions.
We can compare passports if you like to come second. However your view that the blue ties would solve all the UKs problems is about as stupid as people who think the red ties are correct.If you thought as much as you post you might question the system instead of thinking the problem lies with the monkeys pulling the levers.
When have I ever said "blue ties would solve all the UKs problems"?
Never is the answer, I simply don't subscribe to your achingly dull daily anti-coalition diatribes on this forum.
Speaking of subscriptions, when I google 'Fittster' you appear to spend all your time boring people on various fora, is this you also about half way down the page 'seeking massage partners?'
"Fittster, Male, 32, Norfolk"
http://www.massage-exchange.co.uk/massage_Norwich_...
Look for a man on the internet! What a surprise, do you think they will be able to get their cock up your arse with your head already stuffed up there?
You're exactly the bitter little man I thought you were!
So did you get many replies to your plea for 'massage partners'?
Don't lie, you aren't intellectually capable of having a thought.Now go back to trawling gay contact websites.
And I didn't realise that website you advertise on was for gay massage partners. Hows that going for you?
ewenm said:
At least Fittster is consistently anti-government irrespective of hue. And it's becoming an easy filter too: News, Politics & Economics forum, thread started by Fittster = link to some story about the government being useless.
Could be worse. He could be doing it on the porkers forum, corvettechat, HSV Monaro forum and others as well as here. Oh, hang on a minute, he is! OnTheOverrun said:
ewenm said:
At least Fittster is consistently anti-government irrespective of hue. And it's becoming an easy filter too: News, Politics & Economics forum, thread started by Fittster = link to some story about the government being useless.
Could be worse. He could be doing it on the porkers forum, corvettechat, HSV Monaro forum and others as well as here. Oh, hang on a minute, he is! For blogs try:
www.order-order.com: rightwing blog, you'd like that one.
www.dailyreckoning.com: libertrian, goldbug blog.
www.telegraph.com
www.stumblingandmumbling.com: leftie with strong views about the weakness of managerialist ideology
www.moneyweek.com
Now I know you'd like a naked picture of me but that isn't going to happen.
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
ewenm said:
At least Fittster is consistently anti-government irrespective of hue. And it's becoming an easy filter too: News, Politics & Economics forum, thread started by Fittster = link to some story about the government being useless.
Could be worse. He could be doing it on the porkers forum, corvettechat, HSV Monaro forum and others as well as here. Oh, hang on a minute, he is! For blogs try:
www.order-order.com: rightwing blog, you'd like that one.
www.dailyreckoning.com: libertrian, goldbug blog.
www.telegraph.com
www.stumblingandmumbling.com: leftie with strong views about the weakness of managerialist ideology
www.moneyweek.com
Now I know you'd like a naked picture of me but that isn't going to happen.
You do post on all those forums, you're just a bit slow witted and don't realise you do. You're posting on them now. So am I.
If YBW is the only other forum you post on, how come you appear to post on Chew the Fat as well?
How's the personal ad on the massage partner going, you still haven't said?
David Davis, the leading Conservative MP, has been accused of lampooning the Tory-Lib Dem alliance and describing it as the "Brokeback Coalition".
In reportedly extended criticism, he also referred to David Cameron's flagship Big Society policy as “Blairite dressing”.
Mr Davis' alleged comments suggest deep frustration at the way Conservative MPs have been forced to accept the deal with Nick Clegg’s party.
Mr Davis is reported to have said: “The corollary of the big society is the smaller state. If you talk about the small state, people think you’re Attila the Hun. If you talk about the big society, people think you’re Mother Teresa.”
The former shadow home secretary was allegedly overheard making the comments in a City of London pub during a private lunch with businessmen.
The leading right wing MP - who stood against Mr Cameron in the 2005 leadership campaign - also allegedly said the Prime Minister was more concerned with appeasing Lib Dems rather than appealing to MPs in his own party.
The Financial Times reported that three of its journalists heard Mr Davis attack the Coalition.
He was alleged to have approvingly repeated a remark attributed to a senior Conservative, which talked of the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership as the “Brokeback coalition” – a reference to the Oscar-winning film about two homosexual cowboys.
Mr Davis denied that he made that comment and said that he was misheard.
However, the journalists said they overheard him in the Boot and Flogger bar in Southwark. He was dining with some former Tate & Lyle colleagues, according to the newspaper.
This week, amid much fanfare, the Prime Minister outlined how his Big Society idea could help transform communities. But critics on the Tory right have argued that the idea – articulated in the election campaign with little apparent cut-through to voters on the doorstep – has little relevance and is ill thought-out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politic...
Although brokeback mountain is the cornerstone of my personal stalkers DVD collection it's hardly a model for a coalition. The monkeys in charge appear clearly lack any kind of vision except being in power.
In reportedly extended criticism, he also referred to David Cameron's flagship Big Society policy as “Blairite dressing”.
Mr Davis' alleged comments suggest deep frustration at the way Conservative MPs have been forced to accept the deal with Nick Clegg’s party.
Mr Davis is reported to have said: “The corollary of the big society is the smaller state. If you talk about the small state, people think you’re Attila the Hun. If you talk about the big society, people think you’re Mother Teresa.”
The former shadow home secretary was allegedly overheard making the comments in a City of London pub during a private lunch with businessmen.
The leading right wing MP - who stood against Mr Cameron in the 2005 leadership campaign - also allegedly said the Prime Minister was more concerned with appeasing Lib Dems rather than appealing to MPs in his own party.
The Financial Times reported that three of its journalists heard Mr Davis attack the Coalition.
He was alleged to have approvingly repeated a remark attributed to a senior Conservative, which talked of the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership as the “Brokeback coalition” – a reference to the Oscar-winning film about two homosexual cowboys.
Mr Davis denied that he made that comment and said that he was misheard.
However, the journalists said they overheard him in the Boot and Flogger bar in Southwark. He was dining with some former Tate & Lyle colleagues, according to the newspaper.
This week, amid much fanfare, the Prime Minister outlined how his Big Society idea could help transform communities. But critics on the Tory right have argued that the idea – articulated in the election campaign with little apparent cut-through to voters on the doorstep – has little relevance and is ill thought-out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politic...
Although brokeback mountain is the cornerstone of my personal stalkers DVD collection it's hardly a model for a coalition. The monkeys in charge appear clearly lack any kind of vision except being in power.
Fittster said:
David Davis, the leading Conservative MP, has been accused of lampooning the Tory-Lib Dem alliance and describing it as the "Brokeback Coalition".
In reportedly extended criticism, he also referred to David Cameron's flagship Big Society policy as “Blairite dressing”.
Mr Davis' alleged comments suggest deep frustration at the way Conservative MPs have been forced to accept the deal with Nick Clegg’s party.
Mr Davis is reported to have said: “The corollary of the big society is the smaller state. If you talk about the small state, people think you’re Attila the Hun. If you talk about the big society, people think you’re Mother Teresa.”
The former shadow home secretary was allegedly overheard making the comments in a City of London pub during a private lunch with businessmen.
The leading right wing MP - who stood against Mr Cameron in the 2005 leadership campaign - also allegedly said the Prime Minister was more concerned with appeasing Lib Dems rather than appealing to MPs in his own party.
The Financial Times reported that three of its journalists heard Mr Davis attack the Coalition.
He was alleged to have approvingly repeated a remark attributed to a senior Conservative, which talked of the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership as the “Brokeback coalition” – a reference to the Oscar-winning film about two homosexual cowboys.
Mr Davis denied that he made that comment and said that he was misheard.
However, the journalists said they overheard him in the Boot and Flogger bar in Southwark. He was dining with some former Tate & Lyle colleagues, according to the newspaper.
This week, amid much fanfare, the Prime Minister outlined how his Big Society idea could help transform communities. But critics on the Tory right have argued that the idea – articulated in the election campaign with little apparent cut-through to voters on the doorstep – has little relevance and is ill thought-out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politic...
Although brokeback mountain is the cornerstone of my personal stalkers DVD collection it's hardly a model for a coalition. The monkeys in charge appear clearly lack any kind of vision except being in power.
I wonder if he would have said anything like that if he was given a red box.In reportedly extended criticism, he also referred to David Cameron's flagship Big Society policy as “Blairite dressing”.
Mr Davis' alleged comments suggest deep frustration at the way Conservative MPs have been forced to accept the deal with Nick Clegg’s party.
Mr Davis is reported to have said: “The corollary of the big society is the smaller state. If you talk about the small state, people think you’re Attila the Hun. If you talk about the big society, people think you’re Mother Teresa.”
The former shadow home secretary was allegedly overheard making the comments in a City of London pub during a private lunch with businessmen.
The leading right wing MP - who stood against Mr Cameron in the 2005 leadership campaign - also allegedly said the Prime Minister was more concerned with appeasing Lib Dems rather than appealing to MPs in his own party.
The Financial Times reported that three of its journalists heard Mr Davis attack the Coalition.
He was alleged to have approvingly repeated a remark attributed to a senior Conservative, which talked of the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership as the “Brokeback coalition” – a reference to the Oscar-winning film about two homosexual cowboys.
Mr Davis denied that he made that comment and said that he was misheard.
However, the journalists said they overheard him in the Boot and Flogger bar in Southwark. He was dining with some former Tate & Lyle colleagues, according to the newspaper.
This week, amid much fanfare, the Prime Minister outlined how his Big Society idea could help transform communities. But critics on the Tory right have argued that the idea – articulated in the election campaign with little apparent cut-through to voters on the doorstep – has little relevance and is ill thought-out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politic...
Although brokeback mountain is the cornerstone of my personal stalkers DVD collection it's hardly a model for a coalition. The monkeys in charge appear clearly lack any kind of vision except being in power.
turbobloke said:
"lack any kind of vision except being in power"
That was the last lot.
Apparently the current lot have at least one vision, of reducing the burden of deficit and debt left by the last lot as a result of spendthrift incompetence.
Still pretty quite on how they are going to do that, certainly no commitment to the state withdrawing from any major areas.That was the last lot.
Apparently the current lot have at least one vision, of reducing the burden of deficit and debt left by the last lot as a result of spendthrift incompetence.
When they really reduce the areas the state operates in (not trying to do everything it currently does, just with less money/people) and give real power to the public I'll be impressed.
Fittster said:
turbobloke said:
"lack any kind of vision except being in power"
That was the last lot.
Apparently the current lot have at least one vision, of reducing the burden of deficit and debt left by the last lot as a result of spendthrift incompetence.
Still pretty quite on how they are going to do that, certainly no commitment to the state withdrawing from any major areas.That was the last lot.
Apparently the current lot have at least one vision, of reducing the burden of deficit and debt left by the last lot as a result of spendthrift incompetence.
When they really reduce the areas the state operates in (not trying to do everything it currently does, just with less money/people) and give real power to the public I'll be impressed.
Anyway what's wrong with this? Snips from a Grauniad article.
As George Osborne announced lifting 850,000 low-paid taxpayers out of income tax in today's extraordinary budget, Nick Clegg turned to David Cameron to say thank you. There were smiles of agreement too from David Laws, the former Liberal Democrat chief secretary, when Osborne said it was a progressive budget. At today's cabinet meeting, the business secretary, Vince Cable, said: "This is a budget we can all be proud of."
...
Osborne insisted he had been tough – the traditional Conservative trait – but also fair, the mark of the coalition. There is little doubt the budget is tough, even if it is consistent with all Osborne's warnings. There is an additional £40bn of tightening over the parliament, making a total consolidation of £113bn.
Departmental spending outside health and international development will be cut over the forecasting period by an astonishing 25%. Marginal tax rates seem to be significantly worsening. But Osborne has also set himself the toughest fiscal straitjacket, one that Labour insists is avoidable. He wants not only to eradicate the structural deficit by 2014-15, but also that debt should be falling as a share of GDP by 2015-16.
As to David Davis and whispers from the snug in the Dog and Duck or wherever, clearly he's still kissed off at losing the leadership contest with David Cameron, just as Labour and their supporters are kissed off at getting what they deserved - being booted out.
"David Cameron is attempting to play down cabinet divisions over immigration after Business Secretary Vince Cable said a planned cap on on numbers coming from outside the EU must be flexible.
The prime minister told the BBC it was "perfectly legitimate" for Mr Cable to argue his case.
But, he added, "we decide these things in a cabinet, in a reasonable and sensible way".
The cap is due to come into force in April following a consultation.
Mr Cameron, who is on a trade mission to India with other senior ministers, including Mr Cable, has said he wants to cut net immigration to levels last seen in the 1990s - which he claimed would kill it off as an issue in British politics."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10786650
The prime minister told the BBC it was "perfectly legitimate" for Mr Cable to argue his case.
But, he added, "we decide these things in a cabinet, in a reasonable and sensible way".
The cap is due to come into force in April following a consultation.
Mr Cameron, who is on a trade mission to India with other senior ministers, including Mr Cable, has said he wants to cut net immigration to levels last seen in the 1990s - which he claimed would kill it off as an issue in British politics."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10786650
Fittster said:
"David Cameron is attempting to play down cabinet divisions over immigration after Business Secretary Vince Cable said a planned cap on on numbers coming from outside the EU must be flexible.
The prime minister told the BBC it was "perfectly legitimate" for Mr Cable to argue his case.
But, he added, "we decide these things in a cabinet, in a reasonable and sensible way".
The cap is due to come into force in April following a consultation.
Mr Cameron, who is on a trade mission to India with other senior ministers, including Mr Cable, has said he wants to cut net immigration to levels last seen in the 1990s - which he claimed would kill it off as an issue in British politics."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10786650
Proof that the coalition is working.The prime minister told the BBC it was "perfectly legitimate" for Mr Cable to argue his case.
But, he added, "we decide these things in a cabinet, in a reasonable and sensible way".
The cap is due to come into force in April following a consultation.
Mr Cameron, who is on a trade mission to India with other senior ministers, including Mr Cable, has said he wants to cut net immigration to levels last seen in the 1990s - which he claimed would kill it off as an issue in British politics."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10786650
I believe if it is decided by a split cabinet it is called democracy, over single party politics run by 1 key person who runs the whip, IE Madelson.
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