Bloke Murders His Family Over Debts?

Bloke Murders His Family Over Debts?

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groak

3,254 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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One of my businesses arranges Trust Deeds for people with unsecured debt problems. (In England Trust deeds are called IVAs.) It basically involves an Insolvency Practitioner from an accountancy firm making a set arrangement with creditors to accept so much in the £1 over a 3 year period. It creates a serious reduction in the monthly debt servicing requirement, and after 3 years the debt is wiped out. Apparently it's very helpful and a major stress reducer and a viable option to bankruptcy for many people which doesn't leave much of a negative imprint once its 3 year period has expired.

Debt's not worth killing over.



Edited by groak on Wednesday 28th July 17:38

Jasandjules

69,931 posts

230 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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I can only surmise how terribly a man might be feeling in those circumstances, and wonder if he was, realistically, severely depressed, and if that mentally ill, then rational thought might escape him, which would then lead to the conclusion that killing everyone to end all the suffering might, in his view, be a "good" approach to take.

A tragedy.

E31Shrew

5,922 posts

193 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Jasandjules said:
I can only surmise how terribly a man might be feeling in those circumstances, and wonder if he was, realistically, severely depressed, and if that mentally ill, then rational thought might escape him, which would then lead to the conclusion that killing everyone to end all the suffering might, in his view, be a "good" approach to take.

A tragedy.
Agreed.

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Tragic.

Suspect with the money worries the credit card bill drove him to kill the wife, then the realisation that the kids would be put into care was too much. Poor little things. I do hope they didn't suffer. frown

Given how much tax-payers money is wasted on the underclass, we really must be able to do better in cases like this.

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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maybe the bloke was about to be falsely accused of rape?

ShadownINja

76,386 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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andy400 said:
Apparently, Fordingbridge now has a homicide rate eight times higher than the national average, due to this sad event and the Burgate House murders of 1986.
That's only because 4 families live in Fordingbridge. wink

It's a really nice place, though. Would love to live there. Bit of a bd of a commute, though. And for some reason, pubs go quiet when I walk in there. Especially with an English girl on my arm. In fact, I'm suddenly wondering if the Chinese takeaway on the "high street" got firebombed shortly after my weekend there because they thought their son was stealing all the local girls.

Edited by ShadownINja on Wednesday 28th July 21:59

Flintstone

8,644 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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ShadownINja said:
It's a really nice place, though. Would love to live there. Bit of a bd of a commute, though. And for some reason, pubs go quiet when I walk in there. Especially with an English girl on my arm. In fact, I'm suddenly wondering if the Chinese takeaway on the "high street" got firebombed shortly after my weekend there because they thought their son was stealing all the local girls.
I think some of the locals were exacting revenge for World War II. "Chinese, japanese...what's the difference?". You should kill a few jews as revenge for the sinking of the Titanic.

fido

16,805 posts

256 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Flintstone said:
I think some of the locals were exacting revenge for World War II. "Chinese, japanese...what's the difference?".
Minor historical fact: Chinese were part of the Allies in WWII.

Back to the Murdering Dad(s). At the end of the day, we shouldn't forget that these men have taken innocent lives - entirely their choice and only their choice to kill their innocent family members. I suspect they are either bullies or control-freaks, though they appear to be 'loving' people to the outside world - or to people who don't cross them.

Edited by fido on Wednesday 28th July 22:27

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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fido said:
At the end of the day, we shouldn't forget that these men have taken innocent lives - entirely their choice and only their choice to kill their innocent family members. I suspect they are either bullies or control-freaks, though they appear to be 'loving' people to the outside world - or to people who don't cross them.
Can I just remind you of the indignance and posturing not too long ago concerning a couple jumping off Beachy Head with their child in one rucksack and his toys in another...

fido

16,805 posts

256 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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grumbledoak said:
Can I just remind you of the indignance and posturing not too long ago concerning a couple jumping off Beachy Head with their child in one rucksack and his toys in another...
The circumstances in that case were completely different - the poor child i believe had died from an illness and the parents decided to end both their lives - so that's pretty much suicide. No one died against their own will.

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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fido said:
The circumstances in that case were completely different
They were. But we had several days of indignant posturing before the tragic truth came out.

fido

16,805 posts

256 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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grumbledoak said:
But we had several days of indignant posturing before the tragic truth came out.
Well i can only comment on that news article, and it has pretty much stated that he murdered each and every one of then.