Trident to be funded by MOD - Sign it's not wanted?

[hidetheelephants]

The real Apache said:

HarryW said:

Talksteer said:

nonuts said:

We seem to be forgetting a few important things when people are saying 'just get rid of it all', the world changes. 100 years ago we hadn't even started a bun fight with the Germans the first time around... who's to say what the world will look like in 50 years when the oil / clean water / whatever is running out because we're all idiots.

I for one would like us to be able to build, maintain and use our own nuclear weapons.

However I also don't think we should be sacrificing our ability to defend ourselves. The cuts should be made elsewhere if needed.

To right; 25 years ago the cold war was still happening! In about 25-50years who knows what will be happening.

Also having nuclear weapons makes the UK important on an international stage, with in a very diluted way makes me more important at 9p per day I think it's cheap at the price.

For comparison the Trident deterrent costs about the same as 1.5 general hospitals on an annual basis.

Edited by Talksteer on Monday 2nd August 22:09

Exactly

HarryW earlier in the thread said:

.....to[sic] expand the point that its an unpredictable world; Think on this if you believe you know tomorrows answers today - the person or state it could be used against may not even be born yet.

So in a Hyperbole or two; it would be extremely short sighted and a betrayal of our children and their children not to replace Trident for this generations short term monetary savings...........

Good work, never thought a 'but think of the children' would get a mention in a thread about nuclear deterent funding

Absolutely, why should the whiny watermelons have a monopoly on lazy emotive non-argument; selfish bds. We should fund the airwings for the CVF properly and pony up for another 4 type 45 destroyers; my niece and nephews deserve it!

[The real Apache]

[Mojocvh]

hidetheelephants said:

The real Apache said:

HarryW said:

Talksteer said:

nonuts said:

We seem to be forgetting a few important things when people are saying 'just get rid of it all', the world changes. 100 years ago we hadn't even started a bun fight with the Germans the first time around... who's to say what the world will look like in 50 years when the oil / clean water / whatever is running out because we're all idiots.

I for one would like us to be able to build, maintain and use our own nuclear weapons.

However I also don't think we should be sacrificing our ability to defend ourselves. The cuts should be made elsewhere if needed.

To right; 25 years ago the cold war was still happening! In about 25-50years who knows what will be happening.

Also having nuclear weapons makes the UK important on an international stage, with in a very diluted way makes me more important at 9p per day I think it's cheap at the price.

For comparison the Trident deterrent costs about the same as 1.5 general hospitals on an annual basis.

Edited by Talksteer on Monday 2nd August 22:09

Exactly

HarryW earlier in the thread said:

.....to[sic] expand the point that its an unpredictable world; Think on this if you believe you know tomorrows answers today - the person or state it could be used against may not even be born yet.

So in a Hyperbole or two; it would be extremely short sighted and a betrayal of our children and their children not to replace Trident for this generations short term monetary savings...........

Good work, never thought a 'but think of the children' would get a mention in a thread about nuclear deterent funding

Absolutely, why should the whiny watermelons have a monopoly on lazy emotive non-argument; selfish bds. We should fund the airwings for the CVF properly and pony up for another 4 type 45 destroyers; my niece and nephews deserve it!

Boats, don't forget extra boats for the screen.....

[Fittster]

Lib Dems seem quite happy:

"Today, within the Strategic Defence Review, the Coalition Government announced
that there will be no final decision on the like-for-like replacement of Trident
during this parliament. So Trident will not be renewed this parliament - not on
a Liberal Democrat watch. Let us be clear, this is a significant victory for
Liberal Democrat campaigners, and a fantastic example of what our Ministers can
and do achieve in government.

But the Coalition Government is not just saying no to replacing Trident this parliament. It is going further. It is also taking important steps towards the goal of multilateral nuclear disarmament. The announcement today sees a 25% cut in warheads.

Today is yet another day that we can all feel hugely proud to be a party of government, delivering key Liberal Democrat priorities."

[Funk]

Fittster said:

Lib Dems seem quite happy:

"Today, within the Strategic Defence Review, the Coalition Government announced
that there will be no final decision on the like-for-like replacement of Trident
during this parliament. So Trident will not be renewed this parliament - not on
a Liberal Democrat watch. Let us be clear, this is a significant victory for
Liberal Democrat campaigners, and a fantastic example of what our Ministers can
and do achieve in government.

But the Coalition Government is not just saying no to replacing Trident this parliament. It is going further. It is also taking important steps towards the goal of multilateral nuclear disarmament. The announcement today sees a 25% cut in warheads.

Today is yet another day that we can all feel hugely proud to be a party of government, delivering key Liberal Democrat priorities."

The Tories are just doing it without tell the Libs about it.

[S7Paul]

By the time they make the decision it will already be far too late/expensive to cancel (ref. the Carrier decision). What most of the general public may not realise is that the Trident replacement programme is already employing thousands of people in the UK & USA, and is ramping up quite quickly.