Trapped Chilean miners found alive, but...

Trapped Chilean miners found alive, but...

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andy_s

19,400 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Lead miner to President: "I hope that doesn't happen again" biggrin Class understatement!

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Morningside said:
No. The BBC have wasted all the money on this story (£100,000).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/13/bbc-ch...
How the hell can it cost £100,000 just to tell us that some blokes have been pulled out of a hole. I hope the spending review hits the feckless wasteful lefty wkers right in the lentils.

paddyhasneeds

51,311 posts

211 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
Morningside said:
No. The BBC have wasted all the money on this story (£100,000).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/13/bbc-ch...
How the hell can it cost £100,000 just to tell us that some blokes have been pulled out of a hole. I hope the spending review hits the feckless wasteful lefty wkers right in the lentils.
Sorry but I do think this is newsworthy even if I can't do a very good job at putting into words quite why "Human triumph" I suppose even if an alternative view is "dig a deep hole".

I'd be interested to know the break down of costs to get them there and cover it at any level vs. the costs of wall to wall coverage when there's nothing to report - I'm assuming transmitting from the middle of the Atacama desert for any period of time costs more than doing the same from, say, Central London.

They should be looking at all the real non-stories that get lots of reporters standing outside lots of pointless places reporting pointless facts.

Dan_1981

17,397 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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I'd imagine a pretty big crew gets sent over - its not going to be just one reporter and a camera man.

Their wages and expenses for what has been at least a month has got to be pretty significant alone.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
Morningside said:
No. The BBC have wasted all the money on this story (£100,000).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/13/bbc-ch...
How the hell can it cost £100,000 just to tell us that some blokes have been pulled out of a hole. I hope the spending review hits the feckless wasteful lefty wkers right in the lentils.
Telegraph linky

Telegraph said:
Chile miners: BBC sends 25 to cover rescue of 33

The corporation’s staff significantly outnumbers all the other UK broadcasters put together, with ITV having sent six people, Sky News a team of nine and Channel 4 News just three.

As well as newsgathering for the BBC’s TV and radio bulletins and its website, the corporation’s team is understood to include crews for Panorama and Radio 5 Live.
All thanks to the unique way the Beeb is funded.

Edited by hornetrider on Thursday 14th October 13:37

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
Morningside said:
No. The BBC have wasted all the money on this story (£100,000).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/13/bbc-ch...
How the hell can it cost £100,000 just to tell us that some blokes have been pulled out of a hole. I hope the spending review hits the feckless wasteful lefty wkers right in the lentils.
because the journalists are flwon there is 1st class and stay in the top hotels, taxis everywhere, huge per diems etc. They claim every expense under the sun, allowances etc. That's where your TV License money goes smile

JB!

5,254 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Elizabeth Fritzl said:
Those miners are lightweights

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Chris_w666 said:
Morningside said:
No. The BBC have wasted all the money on this story (£100,000).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/13/bbc-ch...
How the hell can it cost £100,000 just to tell us that some blokes have been pulled out of a hole. I hope the spending review hits the feckless wasteful lefty wkers right in the lentils.
because the journalists are flwon there is 1st class and stay in the top hotels, taxis everywhere, huge per diems etc. They claim every expense under the sun, allowances etc. That's where your TV License money goes smile
My question was more rhetorical I am having a ste day anyway. Still nice to know that somehow the job of one bloke a handicam, a laptop and an internet connection has been done by 25 probably armed with £100k worth of equipment furious

Are sky showing it in HD too?

FamilyGuy

850 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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DJC said:
Tadite said:
FamilyGuy said:
I'm confused. From what the BBC say it was a US built drill operated by Americans that made the escape shaft. So how come the Chillians are claiming all the credit and I've not heard a single word of thanks for the US?
Just because they had a little bit of help doesn't mean it isn't one heck of an achievement. They did the hard part of keeping people organized and not letting them go insane. Bringing in specialists like NASA is just due diligence.
Er no. The hard is the engineering and achieving what was needed. Keeping organised not going insane is only a right knacker when you are in a hopeless situation. When that has been resolved and you are into a steady state situation, things become much easier to manage.

The drilling and engineering behind the rescue shaft, 700m down...now *that* was the hard part. There should be some fking large congratulations going on for the engineering.
Exactly. And the "not letting them go insane" was done by NASA - er that would be the US too and I doubt they'll send a bill.

Edited by FamilyGuy on Thursday 14th October 14:04

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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lets remember that whilst NASA had the appropriate experience to help the miners they were also interested in studying how they coped in this situation, which has a lot of similarities to those that could be encountered on future manned space missions (e.g. to Mars).

JonRB

74,595 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Well, I must say I've been really entertained by the Chilean Miners. I'm not sure how much of their stuff I'm going to like now that they've gone mainstream - I think I preferred their underground stuff.

Vipers

32,893 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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FamilyGuy said:
I'm confused. From what the BBC say it was a US built drill operated by Americans that made the escape shaft. So how come the Chillians are claiming all the credit and I've not heard a single word of thanks for the US?
The Americans took all the credit for putting a man on the mooon, I didn't hear a single word of thanks to the Germans? (Re - Wernher von Braun)




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Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Vipers said:
FamilyGuy said:
I'm confused. From what the BBC say it was a US built drill operated by Americans that made the escape shaft. So how come the Chillians are claiming all the credit and I've not heard a single word of thanks for the US?
The Americans took all the credit for putting a man on the mooon, I didn't hear a single word of thanks to the Germans? (Re - Wernher von Braun)

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Wasn't he an American by that point?

Vipers

32,893 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Marf said:
Vipers said:
FamilyGuy said:
I'm confused. From what the BBC say it was a US built drill operated by Americans that made the escape shaft. So how come the Chillians are claiming all the credit and I've not heard a single word of thanks for the US?
The Americans took all the credit for putting a man on the mooon, I didn't hear a single word of thanks to the Germans? (Re - Wernher von Braun)

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Wasn't he an American by that point?
Don't matter does it? he was probably naturised and pasturised by that time, but it was German know how which did it. (You get my drift). Anyway a very good result in Chile, when does the film come out?




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qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
Morningside said:
No. The BBC have wasted all the money on this story (£100,000).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/13/bbc-ch...
How the hell can it cost £100,000 just to tell us that some blokes have been pulled out of a hole. I hope the spending review hits the feckless wasteful lefty wkers right in the lentils.
Given that the BBC will have to scale back their reporting of "next month's G20 summit in Seoul, the Oscars, the Cancún climate summit, which begins in November, the Nato summit in Lisbon, and the Davos World Economic Forum." This is another good news story to come from this rescue!



Morningside

24,110 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Blib said:
Anyone got a copy of 'Manic Miner - Chile edition' ?

Vipers

32,893 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Do tell tell me, all it needed was one reporter, one camerman, one laptop, so why £100,000? even with first class flights, which I have no problems with at all.

The BBC should explain this to the licence paying public.


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Morningside

24,110 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Vipers said:
Do tell tell me, all it needed was one reporter, one camerman, one laptop, so why £100,000? even with first class flights, which I have no problems with at all.

The BBC should explain this to the licence paying public.


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Did anyone else notice the actual cost was missing from 'Have I Got News For You'? They just mentioned the number of BBC reporters?

Glassman

22,541 posts

216 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Morningside said:
Anyone got a copy of 'Manic Miner - Chile edition' ?
coming right up getmecoat

Puggit

48,463 posts

249 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Vipers said:
Do tell tell me, all it needed was one reporter, one camerman, one laptop, so why £100,000? even with first class flights, which I have no problems with at all.

The BBC should explain this to the licence paying public.


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I believe the BBC are subject to FOI requests...