MI6 (?) murder

[Marf]

Hugo a Gogo said:

Marf said:

Ayahuasca said:

Marf said:

Ayahuasca said:

Re the 'sex game' hypothesis - WTF kind of sex game is being zipped into a bag? Is is the zipper or the zippee who gets their jollies?

Both.

Being controlled and excercising control over another. Pretty basic S&M stuff.

But without any possibility of visual or genital stimulation? I mean, the end reult is a bag that might wriggle a bit, but that's it. You don't see pictures of zipped-up bags on 'those' websites do you?
Or maybe you do?

Dunno, research it and let us know. I wouldnt be in the least bit surprised if being put in a sports bag was a fetish.

it's not my bag, baby

Hmm, I have a book here entitled "Sports Bags and Me: This Sort of Thing Is My Bag, Baby" by Hugo a Gogo

[andy_s]

Marf said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

Marf said:

Ayahuasca said:

Marf said:

Ayahuasca said:

Re the 'sex game' hypothesis - WTF kind of sex game is being zipped into a bag? Is is the zipper or the zippee who gets their jollies?

Both.

Being controlled and excercising control over another. Pretty basic S&M stuff.

But without any possibility of visual or genital stimulation? I mean, the end reult is a bag that might wriggle a bit, but that's it. You don't see pictures of zipped-up bags on 'those' websites do you?
Or maybe you do?

Dunno, research it and let us know. I wouldnt be in the least bit surprised if being put in a sports bag was a fetish.

it's not my bag, baby

Hmm, I have a book here entitled "Sports Bags and Me: This Sort of Thing Is My Bag, Baby" by Hugo a Gogo

Google 'vacuum beds' if you think bags are weird.

[The Hypno-Toad]

Does anyone else see a similarity here with another couple of odd deaths?

A scientist going for a walk in the woods?

A Sloane who got lucky gets freaked out and goes for a drive through Paris with her new boyfriend?

In all of these cases, there is just enough fascinating titbits to keep all of us busy on this site and the conspiracy nutters busy on theirs. No doubt there will be books written about this death too. But think about it. Blunt knives, White Unos, designer dresses, a moved body, a locked bag, a dodgy autopsy, all designed to keep us guessing while the basic point that people have died (possibly murdered) is almost sidetracked.

Smoke and Mirrors?

Can opened, worms everywhere.....

[Albert Bridge]

andy_s said:

Google 'vacuum beds' if you think bags are weird.

[alfaman]

andy_s said:

Google 'vacuum beds' if you think bags are weird.

the idea of being shrink wrapped in rubber out here in the tropics urgghhh...! ....so sexy ...until u climb out dripping in sweat

[turbobloke]

Report in the Mail today says MI6 sent him to a conference of escapologists, lock pickers, hackers and vagabonds recently precisely to mix with such types as part of his role.

[rohrl]

If all this is an ad campaign for Derren Brown's next extravaganza then I think it's in very poor taste.

[hairykrishna]

turbobloke said:

Report in the Mail today says MI6 sent him to a conference of escapologists, lock pickers, hackers and vagabonds recently precisely to mix with such types as part of his role.

They sent him to Def Con - the Mails headline description of it as an escapology conference is a bit wide of the mark. It's a 'black hat' hackers conference. They have classes on lock picking but it's not really the focus of it.

[turbobloke]

hairykrishna said:

turbobloke said:

Report in the Mail today says MI6 sent him to a conference of escapologists, lock pickers, hackers and vagabonds recently precisely to mix with such types as part of his role.

They sent him to Def Con - the Mails headline description of it as an escapology conference is a bit wide of the mark. It's a 'black hat' hackers conference. They have classes on lock picking but it's not really the focus of it.

In terms of what happened in the flat, that bit alone does make any open minded individual reopen thoughts that this might just have been a bit of solo extracurricular. That said, the coroner's view of a necessary other does weigh against.

[ExChrispy Porker]

I'd be surprised if MI6 didn't know about lock picking.

[turbobloke]

ExChrispy Porker said:

I'd be surprised if MI6 didn't know about lock picking.

Me too, but would a seconded GCHQer not benefit from a crash course while mingling with wildlife in its natural state?

[0000]

turbobloke said:

ExChrispy Porker said:

I'd be surprised if MI6 didn't know about lock picking.

Me too, but would a seconded GCHQer not benefit from a crash course while mingling with wildlife in its natural state?

Plenty of white collar professionals attend Def Con.

If I sent someone there, who was seconded to my organisation for the medium term as a cryptography expert, it wouldn't be to mingle with lock pickers.

[turbobloke]

0000 said:

turbobloke said:

ExChrispy Porker said:

I'd be surprised if MI6 didn't know about lock picking.

Me too, but would a seconded GCHQer not benefit from a crash course while mingling with wildlife in its natural state?

Plenty of white collar professionals attend Def Con.

If I sent someone there, who was seconded to my organisation for the medium term as a cryptography expert, it wouldn't be to mingle with lock pickers.

That wasn't my point, it may have been ExChrispy Porker's point but he can answer that.

If you look back I suggested it was possibly a spot of extracurricular.

[0000]

Maybe you missed my point.

You only send a cryptography expert halfway around the world to a hacker convention for one reason. I'm sure they could've found him a squash court or cookery course somewhat closer.

[turbobloke]

0000 said:

Maybe you missed my point.

You only send a cryptography expert halfway around the world to a hacker convention for one reason. I'm sure they could've found him a squash court or cookery course somewhat closer.

No, I didn't miss it.

My point had nothing to do with MI6 bosses sending him anywhere for anything.

In an environment including escapology and lock picking there may have been opportunities to pursue a personal interest aside from any professional intent that MI6 may have had on behalf of their cryptanalyst. Hence extracurricular.

[0000]

Are you talking about a hypothetical situation then? Not the actual one where MI6 tasked him in a team of people who went halfway across the world at taxpayer expense?

[turbobloke]

0000 said:

Are you talking about a hypothetical situation then? Not the actual one where MI6 tasked him in a team of people who went halfway across the world at taxpayer expense?

No not at all. It's simply a matter of fact that while looking at certain things professionally, an interest may be aroused - or developed - in other aspects of the scenery. I've not been sent halfway across the world by MI6 but I've been to conventions where the mainstream focus on one issue had fringe activities in related matters some of which were no less interesting. Human nature isn't defeated by being on a mission.

[Hugo a Gogo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

video of someone trying to recreate the 'locking yourself in a bag' scenario

[thinfourth2]

Hugo a Gogo said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

video of someone trying to recreate the 'locking yourself in a bag' scenario

I think we should get david blame to try this

[munky]

thinfourth2 said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

video of someone trying to recreate the 'locking yourself in a bag' scenario

I think we should get david blame to try this

?? It's not his fault.