MI6 (?) murder

[Marf]

shakotan said:

andy_s said:

Looks like a bit of fun went a bit wrong. Poor chap.

I know there are some pretty extreme sexual practices, but I'm sure people don't 'get off' being chopped into pieces, stuffed inside a bag, and left to rot in a bath tub...

Since when was he "chopped into pieces". He was just found "locked" in a sports bag.

[Nimbus]

shakotan said:

andy_s said:

Looks like a bit of fun went a bit wrong. Poor chap.

I know there are some pretty extreme sexual practices, but I'm sure people don't 'get off' being chopped into pieces, stuffed inside a bag, and left to rot in a bath tub...

I wouldnt be so sure...

[Laurel Green]

shakotan said:

being chopped into pieces, stuffed inside a bag, and left to rot in a bath tub...

If this is correct, then Shakotan, you are the murderer AICMFP.

[andy_s]

shakotan said:

andy_s said:

Looks like a bit of fun went a bit wrong. Poor chap.

I know there are some pretty extreme sexual practices, but I'm sure people don't 'get off' being chopped into pieces, stuffed inside a bag, and left to rot in a bath tub...

I don't think he was chopped up

I read it as a game gone wrong; mummification on the cheap or 'bring out the gimp' scenario.

[JensenA]

andy_s said:

Looks like a bit of fun went a bit wrong. Poor chap.

Exactly right.

[jeff m]

That's a pretty thorough job of discrediting someone

So who on here has him as a friend on Facebook.

[TuxRacer]

Symbolica said:

Thing is, if he'd been working on anything secret surely his parents wouldn't have known he was at MI6? They would've thought he was an IT technician or something.

BBC News said:

While he was a secondary school pupil, Mr Williams was also being coached at Bangor University and graduated with a first class degree in maths at just 17.

In 2000, he took a postgraduate certificate in mathematics at St Catharine's College, Cambridge.

Then goes off to work in Cheltenham, where he presumably doesn't say too much about his day job, before being sent by his place of work on a temporary, but long term secondment to London.

Yeah, I would think his parents just thought he was an IT technician or something!

[odyssey2200]

This is just a Cover Story to detract attention from what is really going on.

[jmorgan]

odyssey2200 said:

This is just a Cover Story to detract attention from what is really going on.

What? Secret Romanian bondage attack squads trying to tie up the UK secret service?

[odyssey2200]

jmorgan said:

odyssey2200 said:

This is just a Cover Story to detract attention from what is really going on.

What? Secret Romanian bondage attack squads trying to tie up the UK secret service?

Ssshhh!

You know the Daily Mail read PH.

[TheEnd]

Well, time for a bump (unless there is another thread going)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17826633

Padlocked inside the bag, £20k of women's clothing that would have been collected from 2008 which his friend suggests might have been planned gifts to her of his sister...

I don't know how metrosexual you'd need to be to go shopping for women's clothes as gifts, but he was taking his time in dishing them out.

[TheDiplomat]

Interesting to note the keys to the bag were found inside the bag and there was no sign of forced entry.

[hyperblue]

All very suspicious. From the BBC article - "Scotland Yard detectives who have been unable to determine a cause of death or establish whether he had locked himself into the bag."

[GTIR]

TheDiplomat said:

Interesting to note the keys to the bag were found inside the bag and there was no sign of forced entry.

[Steamer]

The guy breaks codes for a living.. At one or the highest levels. When he dies he leaves a massive puzzle behind him.

Sure does sound odd. But in the circles he worked I bet his colleagues weren't the kind of guys that 'just' hid your stapler for a laugh.

[Tyre Smoke]

So, according to the news, he wasn't a tranny, so why did he have £20k of women's clothes and a red/ginger wig?

How the hell did he get into the bag and lock it without help?

Did he look particularly effeminate? Could he have actually passed as a woman? Was this some deep undercover operation that went horribly wrong?

[Marf]

Tyre Smoke said:

How the hell did he get into the bag and lock it without help?

BBC were reporting yesterday that there were fragments of DNA on the bag which didnt belong to him, so there is a possibility of a third party being involved.

[essayer]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/25/mi6-ga...

Guardian said:

The MI6 officer found dead in a padlocked bag in the bath at his flat once had to be rescued by his landlords after they found him tied to his bedposts, an inquest heard.

[carmonk]

No no, I prefer the murder option by highly trained professionals, who can enter a flat and kill a person without leaving evidence but make the understandable mistake of securing the body in a holdall that's padlocked from the outside. That must be what happened.

[Odie]

carmonk said:

No no, I prefer the murder option by highly trained professionals, who can enter a flat and kill a person without leaving evidence but make the understandable mistake of securing the body in a holdall that's padlocked from the outside. That must be what happened.

perhaps the body was left to drain and be collected later. But I do think that perhaps it was just naughty sexy fun gone wrong.