UK Honeymoon Couple Attacked in S.A.
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Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the f
k out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
thole 
Colonial said:
Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
thole thole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.Jimbeaux said:
Colonial said:
Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
thole thole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.thole for a percentage of the population, just most of them Edited by Colonial on Tuesday 16th November 02:29
Colonial said:
Jimbeaux said:
Colonial said:
Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
thole thole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.thole for a percentage of the population, just most of them Edited by Colonial on Tuesday 16th November 02:29
Jimbeaux said:
Colonial said:
Jimbeaux said:
Colonial said:
Bing o said:
stitched said:
Seriously one of the top spots in the world to visit or live in, and I speak from experience.
As do the millions of saffers who get the fk out of the racist sthole as soon as they can find work elsewhere.Plenty of pretty places in the world, just that a lot of them you are less likely to end up with a burning tyre for a necklace.
thole thole then; what changed?.....oh, yea.thole for a percentage of the population, just most of them Edited by Colonial on Tuesday 16th November 02:29
South Africa is one of the most beautiful places on earth and would be the perfect destination for a holiday.
However, around 2 decades back, the rest of the world thought they knew better for the populace of South Africa and the previous "regime" (as you chose to refer to it) were pressured into handing power over to, what you saw as, its rightful leaders. A terrorist called Nelson Mandela was released from prison and left to run an economy which could have benefited all. Despite his best intentions, his "people" were woefully inept at the task of taking over from where the white man had left off and true power was very rapidly handed over to the savages. The law was all but on their side and they raped, murdered and caused havoc amongst a previously relatively peaceful nation.
The white man knew his days to be numbered and was told by government ministers to leave the country. So he upped and moved to countries who would have him.
He warned his new hosts of the terror being wrought in the country of his birth but they didn't believe him and called him a racist.
They murder and rape because they can. This is Africa and you cannot win. You can heed the warnings of the white man who leaves the land of his birth, the country he once loved, and not travel to that darkest of continents which will snatch from you life... because it can.
However, around 2 decades back, the rest of the world thought they knew better for the populace of South Africa and the previous "regime" (as you chose to refer to it) were pressured into handing power over to, what you saw as, its rightful leaders. A terrorist called Nelson Mandela was released from prison and left to run an economy which could have benefited all. Despite his best intentions, his "people" were woefully inept at the task of taking over from where the white man had left off and true power was very rapidly handed over to the savages. The law was all but on their side and they raped, murdered and caused havoc amongst a previously relatively peaceful nation.
The white man knew his days to be numbered and was told by government ministers to leave the country. So he upped and moved to countries who would have him.
He warned his new hosts of the terror being wrought in the country of his birth but they didn't believe him and called him a racist.
They murder and rape because they can. This is Africa and you cannot win. You can heed the warnings of the white man who leaves the land of his birth, the country he once loved, and not travel to that darkest of continents which will snatch from you life... because it can.
I hope I'm proved wrong, but I'm sure we're not being told everything. Everything just doesn't add up.
Maybe it's the driver, maybe it's the husband...
They were apparently having dinner in Somerset West, and to get back in to Cape Town proper just requires driving down the N2 motorway in to the centre of town. There is no need to deviate, and if you do there are plenty of routes on other fast roads that don't require stopping.
If they were heading in to a township to see the nightlife at 11pm, then that is utterly stupid.
Maybe it's the driver, maybe it's the husband...
They were apparently having dinner in Somerset West, and to get back in to Cape Town proper just requires driving down the N2 motorway in to the centre of town. There is no need to deviate, and if you do there are plenty of routes on other fast roads that don't require stopping.
If they were heading in to a township to see the nightlife at 11pm, then that is utterly stupid.
Puggit said:
I hope I'm proved wrong, but I'm sure we're not being told everything. Everything just doesn't add up.
Maybe it's the driver, maybe it's the husband...
They were apparently having dinner in Somerset West, and to get back in to Cape Town proper just requires driving down the N2 motorway in to the centre of town. There is no need to deviate, and if you do there are plenty of routes on other fast roads that don't require stopping.
If they were heading in to a township to see the nightlife at 11pm, then that is utterly stupid.
Agreed, something doesn't add up.Maybe it's the driver, maybe it's the husband...
They were apparently having dinner in Somerset West, and to get back in to Cape Town proper just requires driving down the N2 motorway in to the centre of town. There is no need to deviate, and if you do there are plenty of routes on other fast roads that don't require stopping.
If they were heading in to a township to see the nightlife at 11pm, then that is utterly stupid.
Having just heard him interviewed he doesn't sound like a bloke whose new wife has just been brutally murdered.
Puggit said:
If they were heading in to a township to see the nightlife at 11pm, then that is utterly stupid.
The other thing that seems odd is that the driver of the vehicle (I make the big assumption that he is South African), regardless of race or background would have known that it dangerous to go into a township on a Saturday night in 'flash' car and risk his own life for some tourists who want to see 'real Africa'.Says they wanted to go to an outdoor BBQ place that they had heard was vibrant and was featured on Jamie Oliver.
As has been said, it is very sad, but if that was the reason then they're fking idiots. A mate of mine described the place as a complete hellhole and as a White himself wouldn't ever go there after dark.
As has been said, it is very sad, but if that was the reason then they're f
king idiots. A mate of mine described the place as a complete hellhole and as a White himself wouldn't ever go there after dark.Pints said:
South Africa is one of the most beautiful places on earth and would be the perfect destination for a holiday.
However, around 2 decades back, the rest of the world thought they knew better for the populace of South Africa and the previous "regime" (as you chose to refer to it) were pressured into handing power over to, what you saw as, its rightful leaders. A terrorist called Nelson Mandela was released from prison and left to run an economy which could have benefited all. Despite his best intentions, his "people" were woefully inept at the task of taking over from where the white man had left off and true power was very rapidly handed over to the savages. The law was all but on their side and they raped, murdered and caused havoc amongst a previously relatively peaceful nation.
The white man knew his days to be numbered and was told by government ministers to leave the country. So he upped and moved to countries who would have him.
He warned his new hosts of the terror being wrought in the country of his birth but they didn't believe him and called him a racist.
They murder and rape because they can. This is Africa and you cannot win. You can heed the warnings of the white man who leaves the land of his birth, the country he once loved, and not travel to that darkest of continents which will snatch from you life... because it can.
Thought there were rules about racist posting on PH.However, around 2 decades back, the rest of the world thought they knew better for the populace of South Africa and the previous "regime" (as you chose to refer to it) were pressured into handing power over to, what you saw as, its rightful leaders. A terrorist called Nelson Mandela was released from prison and left to run an economy which could have benefited all. Despite his best intentions, his "people" were woefully inept at the task of taking over from where the white man had left off and true power was very rapidly handed over to the savages. The law was all but on their side and they raped, murdered and caused havoc amongst a previously relatively peaceful nation.
The white man knew his days to be numbered and was told by government ministers to leave the country. So he upped and moved to countries who would have him.
He warned his new hosts of the terror being wrought in the country of his birth but they didn't believe him and called him a racist.
They murder and rape because they can. This is Africa and you cannot win. You can heed the warnings of the white man who leaves the land of his birth, the country he once loved, and not travel to that darkest of continents which will snatch from you life... because it can.
Pints said:
Fittster said:
Thought there were rules about racist posting on PH.
There are. Where was I being racist? Until you've lived there, you cannot understand that I was being factual, not racist.
Her explanation was less overtly concerned with colour than with the ongoing tribal tensions, not just in SA but other African countries.
I was in Kenya just a week after the riots in 2008. Nairobi was still chock full of UN forces (Mr Anan was there patching things up) and flying out to the bush from Wilson airport you could see the scorched areas in amongst the shanty town, but I was impressed by the constant reassurances given by Kenyans of various tribes that this 'was not another Ruwanda and we do not have a tribal problem', which to be fair does seem to have been proven in time. But nevertheless, everyone there was realistic enough to concede that, in areas of severe poverty, it's still all too easy to whip-up racial or tribal hatred.
Pints said:
Fittster said:
Thought there were rules about racist posting on PH.
There are. Where was I being racist? Until you've lived there, you cannot understand that I was being factual, not racist.
Edited by Pints on Tuesday 16th November 08:14
It's easy to shout racist, especially if you have no real experience.
Here is some facts:
- I voted to allow all people of SA to be eligible to vote.
- I was shot at for 7 days in a row, whilst part of a production team for some concerts celebrating the release of Nelson Mandela.
- At no time has a white man tried to kill me.
Fittster said:
Pints said:
South Africa is one of the most beautiful places on earth and would be the perfect destination for a holiday.
However, around 2 decades back, the rest of the world thought they knew better for the populace of South Africa and the previous "regime" (as you chose to refer to it) were pressured into handing power over to, what you saw as, its rightful leaders. A terrorist called Nelson Mandela was released from prison and left to run an economy which could have benefited all. Despite his best intentions, his "people" were woefully inept at the task of taking over from where the white man had left off and true power was very rapidly handed over to the savages. The law was all but on their side and they raped, murdered and caused havoc amongst a previously relatively peaceful nation.
The white man knew his days to be numbered and was told by government ministers to leave the country. So he upped and moved to countries who would have him.
He warned his new hosts of the terror being wrought in the country of his birth but they didn't believe him and called him a racist.
They murder and rape because they can. This is Africa and you cannot win. You can heed the warnings of the white man who leaves the land of his birth, the country he once loved, and not travel to that darkest of continents which will snatch from you life... because it can.
Thought there were rules about racist posting on PH.However, around 2 decades back, the rest of the world thought they knew better for the populace of South Africa and the previous "regime" (as you chose to refer to it) were pressured into handing power over to, what you saw as, its rightful leaders. A terrorist called Nelson Mandela was released from prison and left to run an economy which could have benefited all. Despite his best intentions, his "people" were woefully inept at the task of taking over from where the white man had left off and true power was very rapidly handed over to the savages. The law was all but on their side and they raped, murdered and caused havoc amongst a previously relatively peaceful nation.
The white man knew his days to be numbered and was told by government ministers to leave the country. So he upped and moved to countries who would have him.
He warned his new hosts of the terror being wrought in the country of his birth but they didn't believe him and called him a racist.
They murder and rape because they can. This is Africa and you cannot win. You can heed the warnings of the white man who leaves the land of his birth, the country he once loved, and not travel to that darkest of continents which will snatch from you life... because it can.
"previously peaceful" Yeah. That's one perspective. Slightly different to the Saffers I know that left in fear of their life prior to when people "caused havoc"
Colonial said:
"previously peaceful" Yeah. That's one perspective. Slightly different to the Saffers I know that left in fear of their life prior to when people "caused havoc"
You miss the word "relatively"? Compared to what is currently going on, it was peaceful. Not a utopia but better than the sthole it has since become.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff