Philanthropy plan

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Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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The real Apache said:
cymtriks said:
The real Apache said:
Victor McDade said:
Don't these ministers have anything more productive to do with their time?
It's called micromanaging, they are either incapable or unwilling to address the real issues so make a big deal out of fking about with nonsense.
That sums it up perfectly.

Not just on this issue either, just look at other spending, despite all the shock at the big bad cuts we are still plummeting into debt, just at a slightly slower rate.
Not surprising really, whatever they bleed out of us they give away! usually it's S Africa, this time it was N Ireland
Yup, the government already does all the giving I can afford for me.
Plus the government are a bunch of ignorant hypocritical retards who I refuse to listen to. For instance, all this green 'low energy' crap, and what do I see when I want to buy some high performance insulation? Yup - full VAT on top. Great.

Kermit power

28,679 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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sawman said:
NoelWatson said:
sawman said:
Why not make charitable giving tax deductible? Happens in some parts of the world and seems to work quite well
Can't you do that to a certain extent in the UK via Gift Aid?
Kinda,
When I lived in Canada, I had an allowance on my tax return for charitable donation. So, as long as I got a receipt, charitable giving came from my gross income rather than net. Consequently I felt a lot more generous......
That's exactly what Gift Aid does in effect, isn't it? The only difference is that here you don't need to frig around with tax returns to do it.

Personally, I am completely in favour of a return to the sort of philanthropic contributions that were such a highlight of Victorian society.

As soon as I have a tax burden similar to that of Victorian society, then I'll be right there in the philanthropy queue!

sawman

4,920 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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Kermit power said:
sawman said:
NoelWatson said:
sawman said:
Why not make charitable giving tax deductible? Happens in some parts of the world and seems to work quite well
Can't you do that to a certain extent in the UK via Gift Aid?
Kinda,
When I lived in Canada, I had an allowance on my tax return for charitable donation. So, as long as I got a receipt, charitable giving came from my gross income rather than net. Consequently I felt a lot more generous......
That's exactly what Gift Aid does in effect, isn't it? The only difference is that here you don't need to frig around with tax returns to do it.

Personally, I am completely in favour of a return to the sort of philanthropic contributions that were such a highlight of Victorian society.

As soon as I have a tax burden similar to that of Victorian society, then I'll be right there in the philanthropy queue!
TBH, the only time I've ever came across gift aid is when buying entry tickets to the zoo or whatever. In canada pretty much everyone has to do a tax return, and the box to tick for charity is right there on the form, so its a no brainer - my feeling is that philanthropy plays a much bigger role in canadian life than it does here, whether its because of the tax break I know not

Ace-T

7,699 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I too think it is disgraceful the government is forcing us into doing something we are not interested in. Let's be honest, what is the point of stamp collecting anyway? rolleyes

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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article said:
Under the proposals, anyone making sizeable charitable donations would get letters from ministers.
Great! Round mine up to the nearest tenner please! smile


Bunch of utter bell ends. rolleyes

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Kermit power said:
That's exactly what Gift Aid does in effect, isn't it? The only difference is that here you don't need to frig around with tax returns to do it.
In the UK, the charity can reclaim basic rate of tax on the donation and higher rate taxayers can reclaim the difference between basic rate and higher rate tax via their annual tax return.

So effectively donations are paid from gross rather than net income.
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Sidicks

Edited by sidicks on Thursday 30th December 13:13

Galsia

2,170 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I'll do it as soon as the Government stops giving aid to other countries, despite not having the money in the first place...

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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So we are about to pay EVEN MORE taxes and they want us to start giving more to charity.You couldnt make it up.I thought big Dave wanted to have less involvement in our lives.

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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sidicks said:
So effectively donations are paid from gross rather than net income.
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Sidicks
You have to fill in forms and mess about with the claims then though. That all takes time, which is basically as valuable as money.

A simple basis of 'less tax' would solve these issues at a stroke. Plus some charities should be government funded, for instance instead of paying for The Potatoe Council or Ofgen we could have air ambulances.

Edited by Globs on Thursday 30th December 20:31

Tsippy

15,077 posts

170 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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ShadownINja said:
It's a great idea... cos, like, the money will definitely go to the right charities and not be blown on re-decorating Downing Street or the Olympic farce or a big MP party...
And if any of it makes it to the charities, it will be swallowed up in wages / admin costs and still not make it to those it's meant to help.