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kiteless
6,281 posts
73 months
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Article said: it's much better funded and has better access to the popular media. So. Realists have more funding, and better media access than government funded alarmists? Really? Really?
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LongQ
Original Poster
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102 months
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This seems to be an interesting observation about CC funding. http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2012/02/not-even-...How far up the wall one's country (or parent commission) can urinate seems to be a big deal in the finding wars. Quite surprised by the Japanese though. All that dosh and they still get the Sea Shepherd people harrassing them. Meanwhile loads of money (relative to their economies) from Eire and Spain and nothing from Greece. Nor, notably, Liechtenstein and not a lot from poor old poverty stricken, glaciers shrinking Switzerland. So, the next time someone mentions 'big oil' ask them what they know of 'big government' and then how much the oil companies pump into the CC Activist movement.
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chris watton
12,348 posts
129 months
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This made me smile from the WUWT blog: Even a dog can become a member of the Union of Concerned Scientists - all you need to do is pay them $35..and apparantly, even the Guardian cites this group when bigging up their eco-junk....  "Kenji surveys his welcome kit" http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/07/friday-funny...FFS.....
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Jasandjules
45,376 posts
98 months
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BTW should this thread not be renamed GLOBAL WARMING - The Political debate.....
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nelly1
4,917 posts
100 months
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The Blackster taking another hammering in the (surprisingly allowed) comments with his follow-up to the 'Fakegate' article - here...
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turbobloke
55,479 posts
129 months
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nelly1 said: The Blackster taking another hammering in the (surprisingly allowed) comments with his follow-up to the 'Fakegate' article - here...
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Andy Zarse
8,043 posts
116 months
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Climate Change - the RELIGIOUS debate Rowan's off again... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9098421/P...As one of the comments says, "Regarding God`s ideas on air pollution: The fire and brimstone He used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah were not exactly environmentally friendly". 
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kiteless
6,281 posts
73 months
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Lost_BMW
10,618 posts
45 months
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Andy Zarse said: Climate Change - the RELIGIOUS debate Rowan's off again... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9098421/P...As one of the comments says, "Regarding God`s ideas on air pollution: The fire and brimstone He used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah were not exactly environmentally friendly". What a complete arse that man is. "declaration comes on Ash Wednesday" oh, the (forced) irony. Look all that unnecessary burning can't be good, think of the carbon.  "God grieves over the destruction of creation and so should we."Well, he's had a funny way of showing it over the years.
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nelly1
4,917 posts
100 months
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Another inconvenient truth for electric cars? The Tesla 'Brick'...Article said: If the battery is ever totally discharged, the owner is left with what Tesla describes as a "brick": a completely immobile vehicle that cannot be started or even pushed down the street.
The only known remedy is for the owner to pay Tesla approximately $40,000 to replace the entire battery. Unlike practically every other modern car problem, neither Tesla's warranty nor typical car insurance policies provide any protection from this major financial loss 
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dickymint
11,404 posts
127 months
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nelly1 said: Another inconvenient truth for electric cars? The Tesla 'Brick'...Article said: If the battery is ever totally discharged, the owner is left with what Tesla describes as a "brick": a completely immobile vehicle that cannot be started or even pushed down the street.
The only known remedy is for the owner to pay Tesla approximately $40,000 to replace the entire battery. Unlike practically every other modern car problem, neither Tesla's warranty nor typical car insurance policies provide any protection from this major financial loss Even if you don't "brick" it the battery will need replacing at seven years (likely to be less I should imagine) at a knock down cost of $12,000!! Factor that into it's green credentials!
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AshVX220
1,806 posts
59 months
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Religion, like politics, should be kept well clear of science!! Their voices, like those of actor's should not be given weight the argument. As for the Tesla, that's horrendous!! And Elise owners refer to my car as a brick!! 
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turbobloke
55,479 posts
129 months
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motco
4,745 posts
115 months
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turbobloke said: Judging by some of the readers' comments after that article, many of The Independent's faithful followers are still on the MMGW bandwagon.
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turbobloke
55,479 posts
129 months
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motco said: turbobloke said: Judging by some of the readers' comments after that article, many of The Independent's faithful followers are still on the MMGW bandwagon. It was quite a surprise that the Indy allowed the article to appear! Their loyal but small band of followers contains many ultrabelievers.
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motco
4,745 posts
115 months
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turbobloke said: motco said: turbobloke said: Judging by some of the readers' comments after that article, many of The Independent's faithful followers are still on the MMGW bandwagon. It was quite a surprise that the Indy allowed the article to appear! Their loyal but small band of followers contains many ultrabelievers. Some of them believe that Andreas Whittam-Smith* is going to come down a rainbow one day and lead them to the Promised Land.  - The 'Independent' founding editor for those too young to remember.
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odyssey2200
17,444 posts
78 months
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motco said: Some of them believe that Andreas Whittam-Smith* is going to come down a rainbow one day and lead them to the Promised Land. Well I wish he would hurry up, so they can all f  k off somewhere else and leave us alone.
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Oakey
13,697 posts
85 months
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Granada news just started a piece about rising electricity costs and segued into how a Victorian mill in Preston has had solar panels fitted all over the roof. Apparently it produces enough electricity to power the building and 30 homes. They then interviewed the owners of the mill who mentioned a number of times the financial incentives for doing this.
Are the media really this braindead?
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Globs
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100 months
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TheHeretic
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