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nelly1 said:
Some promising news for Africa - 'Huge' water resource exists under Africa...
I guess they will want overseas aid and charities to dig for it now while they sit on their arses or havea few tribal wars.Article said:
"...our work shows that with careful exploring and construction, there is sufficient groundwater under Africa to support low yielding water supplies for drinking and community irrigation."
The scientists say that there are sufficient reserves to be able to cope with the vagaries of climate change.
"Even in the lowest storage aquifers in semi arid areas with currently very little rainfall, ground water is indicated to have a residence time in the ground of 20 to 70 years." Dr Bonsor said.
The scientists say that there are sufficient reserves to be able to cope with the vagaries of climate change.
"Even in the lowest storage aquifers in semi arid areas with currently very little rainfall, ground water is indicated to have a residence time in the ground of 20 to 70 years." Dr Bonsor said.
nelly1 said:
odyssey2200 said:
I guess they will want overseas aid and charities to dig for it now while they sit on their arses or have a few tribal wars.
While the people who need it most will continue to die of hunger and thirst as they've always done.
How did the primative people oround the world, thousands or years ago, dig wells?
So why can't these do the same?
Why are they dieing ( as the TV ad suggests) from contaminated water when man has enjoyed the ability to make fire for tens of thousands of years.
BOIL THE s
t OUT OF YOUR WATER!If you have to walk 500 miles to get your water YOU LIVE IN THE WRONG PLACE SO MOVE!
If you can't feed yourself, why have f
kin kids?Sorry
rant over
As you were.
odyssey2200 said:
nelly1 said:
odyssey2200 said:
I guess they will want overseas aid and charities to dig for it now while they sit on their arses or have a few tribal wars.
While the people who need it most will continue to die of hunger and thirst as they've always done.How did the primative people oround the world, thousands or years ago, dig wells?
So why can't these do the same?
Why are they dieing ( as the TV ad suggests) from contaminated water when man has enjoyed the ability to make fire for tens of thousands of years.
BOIL THE s
t OUT OF YOUR WATER!If you have to walk 500 miles to get your water YOU LIVE IN THE WRONG PLACE SO MOVE!
If you can't feed yourself, why have f
kin kids?Sorry
rant over
As you were.
Most of these peasants are the victims of many external factors as oppose to their own naivety.
Look up 'Fanta Babies' - severely malnourished little ones so labelled in hospitals because the parents fed them Fanta as oppose to breast milk believing it to be better for them.
See how many starve while the local Warlord buys another Bentley and a ton of RPG's.
See how much aid actually reaches those that deserve it.
The whole thing is very, very sad and will not get better any time soon.
An interesting article from WUWT by Lord Monckton:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/20/the-illogic-...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/20/the-illogic-...
turbobloke said:
Bet Her Maj is livid...stevejh said:
An interesting article from WUWT by Lord Monckton:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/20/the-illogic-...
I liked this:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/20/the-illogic-...
Article said:
When the future British prime minister Harold Macmillan arrived at Oxford to study the classics, his tutor said: “Four years’ study will qualify you for nothing at all – except to recognize rot when you hear it.” The climate storyline is rot.
The other day I said:
Great response from Jo Nova...http://joannenova.com.au/2012/04/burn-those-denier...
Jo Nova said:
Dear Steve,
I’ve got great news for you, all you have to do to avert a global catastrophe is to find peer reviewed papers that support the models. I’ve been asking for two years, three months and four days, and no one can find one that suggests CO2 will cause much more than 1 degree of warming at most.
On Jan 2nd 2010: I asked “Is there any evidence?“ Do read it, because lots of things you’ve been told are evidence, are not. We want results from instruments (not opinion polls) — things like ice cores, weather balloons, satellites, or lake sludge, heck… it could even be stuff from dead insects, dust, bits of rock, broken beach shells. Whatever. But only the real deal matters. Simulated evidence does not count. No models.
If you find it (and good luck) do rush, send it to Real Climate, the IPCC and the Goddard Institute of Space Studies too. The evidence is overwhelming, but they can’t find that paper either.
Sincerely,
Jo-the-former-Green
PS: If you have some worthless Pacific Islands in grave danger of disappearing, I’d like to buy them.
Hat tip: Climate Depot
I’ve got great news for you, all you have to do to avert a global catastrophe is to find peer reviewed papers that support the models. I’ve been asking for two years, three months and four days, and no one can find one that suggests CO2 will cause much more than 1 degree of warming at most.
On Jan 2nd 2010: I asked “Is there any evidence?“ Do read it, because lots of things you’ve been told are evidence, are not. We want results from instruments (not opinion polls) — things like ice cores, weather balloons, satellites, or lake sludge, heck… it could even be stuff from dead insects, dust, bits of rock, broken beach shells. Whatever. But only the real deal matters. Simulated evidence does not count. No models.
If you find it (and good luck) do rush, send it to Real Climate, the IPCC and the Goddard Institute of Space Studies too. The evidence is overwhelming, but they can’t find that paper either.
Sincerely,
Jo-the-former-Green
PS: If you have some worthless Pacific Islands in grave danger of disappearing, I’d like to buy them.
Hat tip: Climate Depot
This will scare the hell out of the BBC Pension investors.........
Clean energy isn't bringing home the bacon
"The bottom line is that alternative energy, water waste and carbon companies aren't performing in the stock market"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/economics-bl...
But they're probably dumb enough to re-invest here............
Invest in green energy for just £5
"Community finance project Abundance allows regular savers to earn up to 9%"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/apr/20/invest...
But either way it's our fault and we're gonna pay for it.....
Missed renewable energy targets will cost UK dear, warns study
"Consumers set to pay the price as electricity companies are forced to import more gas, damaging prospects for green jobs"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/21/...
Clean energy isn't bringing home the bacon
"The bottom line is that alternative energy, water waste and carbon companies aren't performing in the stock market"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/economics-bl...
But they're probably dumb enough to re-invest here............
Invest in green energy for just £5
"Community finance project Abundance allows regular savers to earn up to 9%"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/apr/20/invest...
But either way it's our fault and we're gonna pay for it.....
Missed renewable energy targets will cost UK dear, warns study
"Consumers set to pay the price as electricity companies are forced to import more gas, damaging prospects for green jobs"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/21/...
I've been catching up with episodes of 'The Infinite Monkey Cage' recently. When it sticks to science it is very good, however I've just listened to the 'Balance' episode and it was awful. It was supposed to be about presenting a balanced view Iof both sides of an argument but ended up putting across the view that anyone who disagreed with mmgw was the equivalent of someone who thought 2+2=5 No surprise to anyone here that the chief proposer of this view was 'Sir' Paul Nurse.
No surprise to anyone here that the chief proposer of this view was 'Sir' Paul Nurse.rasto said:
I've been catching up with episodes of 'The Infinite Monkey Cage' recently. When it sticks to science it is very good, however I've just listened to the 'Balance' episode and it was awful. It was supposed to be about presenting a balanced view Iof both sides of an argument but ended up putting across the view that anyone who disagreed with mmgw was the equivalent of someone who thought 2+2=5 No surprise to anyone here that the chief proposer of this view was 'Sir' Paul Nurse.
Nurse!!!!!! No surprise to anyone here that the chief proposer of this view was 'Sir' Paul Nurse.
dickymint said:
This will scare the hell out of the BBC Pension investors.........
Clean energy isn't bringing home the bacon
I've been wondering about this lately; I would imagine a proportion of their funds are to be found in solar and with the speed that has gone tits up I do wonder how much money the pension fund has lost. Perhaps the BBC's recent increase in AGW propaganda output isn't entirely coincidental?Clean energy isn't bringing home the bacon
dickymint said:
This will scare the hell out of the BBC Pension investors.........
But they're probably dumb enough to re-invest here............
Invest in green energy for just £5
"Community finance project Abundance allows regular savers to earn up to 9%"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/apr/20/invest...
A great idea as all those Guardianistas who love renewables so much will be the ones who invest and will clearly see their money disappear down the pan. I particulary liked this bit in the article.But they're probably dumb enough to re-invest here............
Invest in green energy for just £5
"Community finance project Abundance allows regular savers to earn up to 9%"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/apr/20/invest...
Eco conman said:
"Those buying into the scheme will be able to log on and see how much electricity the turbine has produced and what their share of the payout will be," says Davis.
Not only will they see first hand how useless disturbines are they will also see exactly what it's costing them 
I might invest a fiver just for the lolz.
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